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From: mxmora@unix.SRI.COM (Matt Mora)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer
Subject: Re: $$$ & THINK Pascal 3.0
Message-ID: <10287@unix.SRI.COM>
Date: 20 Mar 90 20:16:29 GMT
References: <12004@eagle.wesleyan.edu> <2277@husc6.harvard.edu> <172@farcomp.UUCP>
Reply-To: mxmora@unix.UUCP (Matt Mora)
Organization: SRI International, Menlo Park, CA
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In article <172@farcomp.UUCP> murat@farcomp.UUCP (Murat Konar) writes:
>In article <2277@husc6.harvard.edu> siegel@endor.UUCP (Rich Siegel) writes:
>>In article <12004@eagle.wesleyan.edu> bparsia@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:
>>>The "improvements" to THINK Pascal sound nice, but the upgrade price is a
>>>little steep.
>> [more deleted]
>>
>>By way of justification:
>[ eloquent justification deleted (in the interest of brevity)
>  but here are some of Rich's justifications for the cost (read the original
>  for all the details)
>  - development costs
>  - duplication costs (two more disks)
>  - packaging 
>  - new documentation
>  - cost of phone support
>  - positioning of THINK Pascal as a professional tool
>  - etc.
>]
>
>This is all well and good Rich, but you didn't address a suggestion
>made by a previous poster that the Class Library be unbundled.  Not 
>everyone needs or wants the class library.  It seems that you could
>spin the library off as another product and price it so that the 
>price of the library and THINK Pascal would be greater than the 
>bundle is now ( to reflect separate packaging and promotion costs).
>
>I have to say though, I felt that THINK Pascal 2.0 was a real 
>bargain.  Slickest development environment this side of Smalltalk.
>I only hope that THINK Pascal 3.0 is as cool (I'm sure it will be.)
>
>Long live the auto-reformatter!!!

I also think that is should be unbundled (the class library).  But
maybe it can't. I'm glad that TP3.0 will support MacApp. I bought
MPW when it was 2.0.2 with the pascal compiler. It cost a bundle.
I didn't upgrade to 3.0 because it was still beta so I kept using
TP. The upgrade also was also mucho bucks. So I waited. I called
last week to upgrade MPW to 3.0 whatever and the said there is
no upgrade path from 2.0.2 you have to buy the whole thing again!

Apple's not making enough profit on their hardware so now they have to screw
the little developers. *uck them.

That $69 is looking a lot better. 


Sorry to be so blunt but I had to scrape by for months after buying
MPW now I can't even afford to upgrade it. No wonder why there is
software piracy.

I think I call Symantec right now and order the upgrade. :-)


>____________________________________________________________________
>Have a day. :^|             
>Murat N. Konar	
>murat@farcomp.UUCP             -or-          farcomp!murat@apple.com




Disclaimer: I don't pirate software, nor do I recommend it, I just wish
APDA would think about the prices they charge. Developing for the mac can only
help apple not hurt them. And if they want OOP to develop the platform 
must be affordable.
























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Matthew Mora
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