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From: hvr@kimba.Sun.COM (Heather Rose)
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Subject: Re: Xw on Sparc? Xaw vs Xw vs XView? Interp layout contraints?
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Date: 19 Mar 90 01:34:40 GMT
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In article <90Mar16.165337est.242@smoke.cs.toronto.edu> moraes@cs.toronto.edu (Mark Moraes) writes:
>jorice@swift.cs.tcd.ie writes:
>
>>(4) On the subject of XView, how is it to program? I'm wary of it because I
>>found programming in SunView needlessly difficult and I think that SunView
>>applications look really clutzy. How much better is XView? How much disk space
>>does it take up when compiled, roughly?
>
>XView seems considerably better than SunView in the programming
>interface -- it's got some of the Xt object-oriented approach.  But
>it's big.  Some of the code in the internals of the notifier looks as
>if it would be painful to port to a system without Berkeley style
>signals.  (We have one of those:-) Has anyone gotten XView running on
>non-Sun machines?
>
>One possibility for a small toolkit would be to use olgx, and bits of
>olwm for the spiffy 3D look.  olgx is fairly small.  Building a set of
>widgets with it, or retrofitting it onto Xw might be nice.
>
>Given the great response of the XView people to questions on the list,
>and to bug reports, it's might be a good alternative for those of us
>too broke to buy widget sets, or those of us that want source with few
>strings attached.  (Obviously, just like Xw, there's the possibility
>that at some point in the future, XView src may stop appearing in MIT
>X distributions)

XView runs on non-Sun machines: DecStation 3100 with Ultrix (with patch2), 
System 5 release 4 (with graphics update tape for AT&T source licensees), 
and more before the end of the year.  Sun is also folding back in the porting
work into the main XView source which will be donated back to MIT.

olgx is not really a toolkit, but you're free to use it as you like.
The legal issues are outlined in the Copyright file.

I do not see Sun discontinuing donating XView source to MIT.  We will be
making another source donation of XView this summer.

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Heather Rose
Window Systems Group                      internet:  hrose@sun.com
Sun Microsystems, Inc.                        uucp:  ...!sun!hrose