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From: rosalia@max.physics.sunysb.edu (Mark Galassi)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.smalltalk
Subject: Re: Public domain SMALLTALK code?
Message-ID: <1990Mar26.201919.1884@max.physics.sunysb.edu>
Date: 26 Mar 90 20:19:19 GMT
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Reply-To: rosalia@max.UUCP (Mark Galassi)
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In article <28237@cup.portal.com> Anthony_Mak_Fiorentino@cup.portal.com writes:
>I just got a copy of Tim Budd's Little Smalltalk. It took
>$30.00 and months to get.

If anyone wants Little Smalltalk, they can get it by anonymous ftp
from Oregon State University, CS Department.  There you will find
Tim Budd's version 3, which I believe he never even announced.
Veteran netters will remember that version 2 was posted to comp.sources.unix.

Version 3 is nice.  He fixes a lot of annoying things about version 2,
like the fact you could not do

foo <- SomeClass new

but you had to do something hideous like

globalNames at: #foo put: (SomeClass new)

Another interesting thing is the beginning of a graphical interface (optional)
using the stdwin package, which has drivers for X, curses and probably
suntools.  Only the X version works, though last I looked it was
not great.

I like Tim Budd's work, though clearly there is a lot of Smalltalk stuff
not there.  I think people should take a look at it, and consider the
possibility of making a GNU smalltalk, which is a real smalltalk with
the option of having no graphics, and ***free***.

Anyway, that is fixed in version 3, available on cs.orst.edu.  I found
it by chance.  
-- 
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