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From: es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga
Subject: Re: Amiga outclassed
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Date: 27 Mar 90 00:55:38 GMT
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In article <5896@tekig5.PEN.TEK.COM> wayneck@tekig5.PEN.TEK.COM (Wayne C Knapp) writes:
>In article <1990Mar25.235816.15660@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu>, es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita) writes:
>  
>> 	There are currently over 1,500,000 Amigas in the world,
>> selling at a rate of around 500,000 per year. Every quarter for the
>> past year, sales of the Amiga were greater than the year-ago quarter.
>> Most of those sales are, admittedly, in Europe. However, there is no
>> possibility of the Amiga being an orphan in the next few years.
>
>*** Warning Mild Flame below ***
>
>This is from one of the guys upset with people spreading rumors.  I don't
>know what the actual sales figures are, but I really doult that the rate 
>is anywhere near 500,000 a year.  I would bet that is more like a goal of
>Commodore's.  If there were that much growth you wouldn't be seeing the
>shake-out of so many Amiga companies and the wouldn't be so many changes
>taking place in Commodore.  Prehaps Commodore is selling 500,000 computers 
>a year, but I would be really impressed if more that 300,000 Amigas are
>being sold a year now.  PC clones and C64 series computer are bound to account
>for a fair amount of the sales. 
>
>1,500,000 and 500,000 a year would be outstanding and very exciting.  Clearly,
>considering all the recent problems these numbers are likely inflated.  So
>Ethan what is your source of numbers?  If you know some real hard facts that
>the rest of us missed please share them with us, Amiga developers could use
>some good news right now.
>
>                                          Wayne Knapp 
>
>P.S. My guess would be 1.2 million world wide with a growth of 200,000 a year.
>Plus I would beat that at least 25,000 are year being retired.  However, these
>are based on my feelings of fuzzy facts.  This is not intended as a rumor just
>my opinion. 

	Wayne, you have always had a very pessimistic view of the
Amiga and Commodore and now when I present facts you assume I am rumor
mongering.

FACT: March 1989, at AmiExpo Gail Wellington announced sales of around
800,000 Amigas total, most people were estimating around 1,000,000 at
that time.

FACT: April 1990, at AmiExpo Gail Wellington announced sales of over
1,500,000 Amigas.

	I can do basic subtraction, can you?

	Also, Wayne, Commodore sells 1,000,000 C-64s a year, even now
with the sales in a huge slump. That comes straight from the annual
reports and several Commodorian mouths. Are these facts clear enough?
	-- Ethan

Ethan Solomita: es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu

"If Commodore had to market sushi they'd call it `raw cold fish'"
		-- The Bandito, inevitably stolen from someone else