Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!clyde.concordia.ca!uunet!dino!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!cs225af From: cs225af@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple Subject: Re: Mac vs. Apple II line Message-ID: <15800108@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> Date: 26 Mar 90 01:31:12 GMT References: <103837@<1990Mar20> Lines: 34 Nf-ID: #R:<1990Mar20:103837:ux1.cso.uiuc.edu:15800108:000:1732 Nf-From: ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!cs225af Mar 25 18:12:00 1990 > What really bothers my, however, is the Apple II line's affinity for > crashing much too often. Maybe I just have bad luck, but my GS > crashes many times more often than comparible computers. How can I get > things done if my software keeps crashing and I have to wait for GSOS to > load up again and again. Lately, I seem to be sticking to Prodos-8 material > because it runs fast enough, loads fast enough, and doesn't crash nearly as > often. Huh??? In all of the considerable amount of time I've used Apple IIs I've seen far fewer system crashes than I have often seen in a single day at a Mac lab. In fact, system crashes on the older IIs (pre-GS) are usually only caused by bugs, damage to disks, or hitting Control Reset. Granted, the IIgs is a bit more susceptible to system crashes (I have had to spend hours figuring out why a certain program always hangs). Usually the cause of this, though, is CDAs, NDAs, and/or INITs that don't quite do things just right. If you have lots of problems with GS/OS this is probably the cause, so try disabling all your desk accessories and see if your crashes go away. Then, re-enable them a few at a time until the problem reappears. You will often find that using this process of elimination you can isolate exactly what program is causing the trouble, and then either delete it or get in touch with the author for assistance. If on the other hand you are having "Fatal system error"s or GS/OS System Errors, you may have a different problem. In this case, you should write down EXACTLY what appears on the screen, what you were doing at the time, and your complete hardware/software/OS configuration and ask someone here for help. --rubio (rubio-1@uiuc.edu)