Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!uwm.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!mcsun!sunic!tut!santra!kampi.hut.fi!jmunkki From: jmunkki@kampi.hut.fi (Juri Munkki) Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds Subject: Re: Downloads of HP-48SX binary files. Message-ID: <1990Mar24.173103.5051@santra.uucp> Date: 24 Mar 90 17:31:03 GMT References: <1990Mar21.142101.28032@cec1.wustl.edu> <3590@sunspot.UUCP> <1461@uc.msc.umn.edu> <1990Mar21.225133.2561@santra.uucp> <53747@microsoft.UUCP> <1990Mar24.113627.25468@santra.uucp> Sender: news@santra.uucp (Cnews - USENET news system) Reply-To: jmunkki@kampi.hut.fi (Juri Munkki) Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, FINLAND Lines: 28 This is probably my last posting on this subject. My own kermit now talks with the HP and I know why VersaTerm didn't work in 8 bit mode. The bad checksums and packet length problem turned out to be handshaking problems. My configuration packet contained a null where there should have been a space. This was fine for the C kermit in the unix host, but the HP kermit was more picky. This caused the HP kermit to resend its send init packet to which my kermit just sent an acknowledgement packet, because it already saw a good init packet. The HP never received a complete receive init packet. In this case, there was nothing really wrong with the HP. The problem with VersaTerm also appears to have been an init handshake problem. When VersaTerm sends a Send-init, it specifies bit-8 quoting. Normally everyone else is then also forced to use some sort of quoting. HP kermit is funny in that it sends 'Y' anyway. It uses bit-8 quoting, since the other end requested it, but it doesn't give the correct prefix character. Since VersaTerm has already requested prefixing, the HP kermit shouldn't argue against that. This is a very subtle bug in the HP kermit and doesn't hurt anything, if your kermit understands what the 'Y' means. I gave up on MacKermit. I don't recommend it. If you use VersaTerm, use 7 bit transmission with some sort of parity. ___________________________________________________________________________ / Juri Munkki / Helsinki University of Technology / Wind / HP S / / jmunkki@hut.fi / Computing Center Macintosh Support / Surf / 48 X / ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~