Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!ames!uhccux!patten From: patten@uhccux.uhcc.hawaii.edu (Brian Patten) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware Subject: Dead Mac+ Logic Board Summary: I found the bad chip. Now what? Message-ID: <7101@uhccux.uhcc.hawaii.edu> Date: 27 Mar 90 21:10:49 GMT Reply-To: patten@uhccux.UUCP (Brian Patten) Distribution: usa Organization: University of Hawaii Lines: 37 I'll quickly summarize my problem: I have a Mac Plus whose logic board decided to fail. The local Apple dealer "tested" it and said the board was bad. I asked them exactly what was wrong and they said they couldn't tell me. A new board, with labor, is $450. No way! When I got the machine home, I decided to remove my 1 meg SIMMS and put them in safer storage until I decided what to do. While looking over the logic board, I noticed that one of the chips near the CPU was discolored and had a bubble on the top, near the middle of the chip. The chip has a dark brown, burnwed look to it, and I could barely read the numbers. Okay, now for the questions: 1) The chip calls itself MMI 341-0519-A 747418. It has printed on the board beside it the name "CAS". It is copyrighted to Apple 85,86. Can I get one of these chips? 2) Is this burned chip the cause, or the symptom? Did something else fail and throw lots of current through this poor chip, or is this truely the reason for the failure? 3) If I try to replace this chip, what kinds of things should I take precautions against to protect the rest of the board? I have never attempted something like this. Advice on this problem is very much appreciated. I might also add that on trying to power up the machine, all I get is a screen with alternating black and white vertical bars. The machine does nothing else. Brian M. Patten Institute for Astronomy University of Hawaii patten@hubble.ifa.hawaii.edu