Xref: utzoo talk.philosophy.misc:3907 comp.ai:6572 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!mcsun!ukc!tcdcs!swift.cs.tcd.ie!maths.tcd.ie!ftoomey From: ftoomey@maths.tcd.ie (Fergal Toomey) Newsgroups: talk.philosophy.misc,comp.ai Subject: Re: Why the Chinese Room doesn't convince Message-ID: <1990Apr11.173241.6428@maths.tcd.ie> Date: 11 Apr 90 17:32:41 GMT Organization: Dept. of Maths, Trinity College, Dublin, Ireland. Lines: 22 In article <1990Apr10.202829.2080@cs.umn.edu> thornley@cs.umn.edu (David H. Thornley) writes: >I seriously question the validity of this. The number of possible >positions is sufficiently high that it may as well be infinite, since >it is not possible to enumerate them (at, say, a thousand per second) >within the expected lifespan of the universe, nor would a human-readable >version come anywhere near fitting on this planet. > >Therefore, the list is impossible. The novice must have something else >from Kasparov, perhaps a computer program or a chess book of a quality >never yet approached. Well, chess came up as a convenient example. Replace with Tic-Tac-Toe and everything becomes reasonable. I expect that we'll keep the chess example, however, because *in principle* it is the same as Tic-Tac-Toe (ie. the ideas involved in understanding chess are the same as those involved in understanding Tic-Tac-Toe... probably... oh dear.. :-) ). > David Thornley Fergal Toomey.