Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!mcsun!ukc!reading!cf-cm!cybaswan!iiitsh From: iiitsh@cybaswan.UUCP (Steve Hosgood) Newsgroups: comp.binaries.ibm.pc.d Subject: Re: why does ms_sh mask the 8th bit ? Message-ID: <1741@cybaswan.UUCP> Date: 9 Apr 90 09:04:17 GMT References: <1613@krafla.rhi.hi.is> <2730001@hpgnd.HP.COM> Reply-To: iiitsh@cybaswan.UUCP (Steve Hosgood) Organization: Institute for Industrial Information Technology Lines: 29 In article <2730001@hpgnd.HP.COM> arne@hpgnd.HP.COM (Arne LUHRS) writes: >davidsen@sixhub.UUCP (Wm E. Davidsen Jr) writes >In article <1613@krafla.rhi.hi.is> einari@rhi.hi.is (Einar Indridason) writes: > >| I certainly will keep that in mind, but for most readers in the usa >| and europe it's not a problem. The eighth bit seems to be used in >| Scandanavian countries and Iceland. > >Sorry but this just isn't true. The ONLY country in Europe which is NOT >affected to badly by 7bit character sets is the UK (They just loose the >pound sign). > That's nearly correct, but actually what often happens is that UK equipment has the so-called 'national characters' rearranged so that the pound-sign can be included. This then causes all sorts of irritations, like finding your C-programs being displayed with "include XXX" lines which look really horrid. Similarly, keyboard layouts are often 'got at' to move the wretched pound-sign into a prime site. 'National characters' are the worst kludge in ASCII. My sympathies are with the Icelanders, Scandinavians, French, Germans etc... The *BIG* question is: when is the 8 bit version of NEWS coming out? (Complete of course with ability to switch from any ISO LATIN/xxx character set to any other in an organised manner - just right for soc.culture.esperanto people and zillions of others) Steve