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From: jessea@dynasys.UUCP (Jesse W. Asher)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: HST's vs. Telebits (was Searching for inexpensive V.32...)
Message-ID: <139@dynasys.UUCP>
Date: 11 Apr 90 02:59:35 GMT
References: <1438@mindlink.UUCP>
Reply-To: jessea@dynasys.UUCP (Jesse W. Asher)
Organization: Dynasys:  Consulting for the Future.
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In article <1438@mindlink.UUCP> a186@mindlink.UUCP (Harvey Taylor) writes:
>In <134@dynasys.UUCP>, jessea@dynasys.UUCP (Jesse W. Asher) writes:
>} The number of _unix_ sites running HSTs vs. running Telebits are
>} negligible.
> Jesse,
>     Can you document this? I tried to get this kind of info from our
> sysop, but he says he doesn't have the uucp maps, the only source I
> know from which to extract such data. The folklore I have heard is that
> HST has the BBSes, PEP has Unix & Hayes has business, but I have never
> seen figures for Unix sites (or business). I pulled some data for Fido
> sites from a local board (see below).


Unfortunately, I'm only going on experience.  I orignally came from the dos
world so I feel I'm qualified to talk about both sides.  HST's seem to be
used mainly by people from or familiar with the dos world while Telebits
seem to be used mainly by those from or familiar with the unix side.  That's
not to say that unix sites don't run HSTs and dos sites don't run telebits.
But, because of the problem the HSTs had with the uucp g protocol for so long,
telebits have become the standard for the unix world.

This is neither scientific or anything else along those lines, but I did the
following:  I grepped through the uucp maps and found -

	4 lines referencing "HST" in regard to the modem (there is an HST time
		zone).
	5 lines referencing "USR" in regard to the modem.
		- two of these sites also had Telebits.
	66 lines referencing "[tT]elebit".

That's a pretty big margin - even with a large margin for error.  If you
doubt the results, anyone is welcome to produce more accurate ones.  But I
don't think its going to make much difference in the final outcome.  If you
take the high number of 5 out of 66, you get 7.6%.  Not a very large number
and definitely not a standard.

I don't think V.32 will be the great mediator either.  I think a protocol
that has the robustness and speed of the Telebits and HSTs will have to
become the standard for such a standard to exist.  It's very difficult to
accept the performance of V.32 once one has used a telebit (I'm sure the
same applies to HSTs as well).


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