Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!clyde.concordia.ca!uunet!mailrus!accuvax.nwu.edu!nucsrl!telecom-request From: ceb@csli.stanford.edu (Charles Buckley) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom Subject: Re: Credit Card ID Message-ID: <6399@accuvax.nwu.edu> Date: 14 Apr 90 18:24:26 GMT Sender: news@accuvax.nwu.edu Organization: TELECOM Digest Lines: 34 Approved: Telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 10, Issue 255, Message 6 of 9 From: glaser@starch.enet.dec.com (Steve Glaser) >He said that thousands of retailers all over the country had started >asking purchasers to supply a home phone number along with credit card >purchases. He stated that this had no purpose, . . . >Actually, if you listen carefully, much of the time they ask for "a >phone number". As it has been explained to me, this is a writing sample - digits are easier to use in forgery detection than a signature, which is so different that it lends itself to being practiced. One writes so many digits in one's life that it's hard to unlearn, even with practice. What kills me is that the merchants aren't told this by the credit card companies, so some of the more obsequious ones, in trying to make your job of purchasing lighter, ask you for the phone number, and write it on themselves! In my experience from having three credit cards stolen from my PO Box before I could collect them, the fraudulent user unashamedly writes another number, although I couldn't get the postal investigation organization to verify if it belonged to the thief. Guess they protect their own. [Moderator's Note: Addressing only the last paragraph of your message: Not really, they don't. The Chicago Main Post Office has had a few scandals over the years. The postal inspectors come down very hard on postal employees who steal from the mail. A major ripoff of Amoco Credit Cards by postal workers in the early seventies was dealt with very harshly. In those days, the Amoco Credit Card Processing Office was in downtown Chicago. PT]