Xref: utzoo alt.fractals:221 comp.graphics:10960 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!samsung!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!ames!deimos!patterso From: patterso@deimos.ADS.COM (Tim J. Patterson) Newsgroups: alt.fractals,comp.graphics Subject: Re: How well does Barnsley's system perform? Summary: comments on a very slim basis Message-ID: <11486@deimos.ADS.COM> Date: 6 Apr 90 22:39:05 GMT References: <3166@usceast.UUCP> <1571@dftsrv.gsfc.nasa.gov> Organization: Advanced Decision Systems Lines: 26 In article <1571@dftsrv.gsfc.nasa.gov> seiler@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov writes: >In article <3166@usceast.UUCP>, park@usceast.cs.scarolina.edu (Kihong Park) writes... >>Has anybody seen published work by M. Barnsley(or a public demonstration) >>corresponding to the performance of his image compression system based on >>IFSs? Since natural images are in many instances non-fractal, I am particularly >>interested in how his system fares w.r.t. the degree of faithfulness of the >>reproduced image vs original image. That is, does his system of IFSs increase >>drastically in size as more faithfulness is enforced? If there are enough >>responses, I will post a summary. > >If Barnsley can in fact produce what he claims, he may indeed have something. >However, his methods seem to be cloaked in a veil of mystery, as he explains >that he believes the success of his company depends on getting a working system >on the market at least 6 months ahead of anyone else. When he was here at NASA >Goddard over a year ago, he invited us to send a "non-expert" to his place, >where he would demonstrate his system, allowing the visitor to twiddle knobs >and such. He claimed that he could compress any image and retain full quality, >__given enough processing time__. It appears that to him the quality is not an >issue, but the time is. I believe he still has an offer where you can send him >an image, and he will send back a compressed image and tell you how much it was I've seen one of the images which was compressed 10,000 to one. It took a huge amount of time ( I vaguely recall days) to do the compression. Overall quality was not very good but what do you expect at that compression rate?