Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!accuvax.nwu.edu!ferret.Berkeley.EDU!sandell From: sandell@ferret.Berkeley.EDU (Greg Sandell) Newsgroups: comp.music Subject: Compact Disks with Musical Instruments on them Message-ID: <6184@accuvax.nwu.edu> Date: 9 Apr 90 19:29:05 GMT Sender: news@accuvax.nwu.edu Distribution: world Lines: 66 Recently I purchased four of the compact disks in the McGill University Master Samples series. For those of you who don't know them, they include an individual recording of every instrument of the orchestra playing every note in its available range. `Non-clasical' sounds are available as well, such as Rock drums and guitar chords. I am also thinking of buying discs from the Pro Sonus series. From what I know of them, they have similar `classical' sounds, although they have recorded only every fourth note of the available scale for each instrument. They are obviously targeted more exclusively to the needs of Digital Sampler keyboard users, rather than those with research interests. Has anybody else used any of the ProSonus disks? I would be interested in hearing your evaluation of them. I have been doing spectral analyses of entire instruments in the McGill series, and, having seen tremendous note-to-note differences, am convinced that a strategy of recording only every fourth note is a real error. As an example, when english horn goes from F4 to F#4 (sounding pitches) there is dramatic change in fingering from all keys closed to all keys open (roughly). This corresponds to a dramatic change in spectral envelope between these two tones. Clearly such timbral discontinuities are critical to the essential character of the instrument. I am not a Sampling Keyboard user, but it strikes me that just because the current memory capacities of these devices only allow the sampling of every fourth note, it is extremely shortsighted to go through the trouble of recording such tones at great expense and releasing them on CDs when it's only a matter of time before memory is so cheap that the current limitations of Sampling Keyboards will be a joke. Here are some brief evaluations of some of the instruments. As you can see, the playing quality is not consistent; I think that this is a major drawback in the McGill series. I hear that the current issue of CMJ contains a review of the McGill tones, but I haven't seen it yet. 1. Excellent tone quality and evenness of tone productions in the performances of: violin bowed vibrato double bass bowed flute non-vibrato English Horn tenor trombone tuba 2. Less satisfactory tone quality or evenness: viola non-vibrato (very scratchy) Bassoon (weak in mid-high registers; very high notes omitted) french horn (the user's manual does not describe the mike placement of these tones; I suspect that the mike was place right by the bell, which may not effectively capture the sound we usually hear in this instrument, since the bells do not face the listener.) Bb clarinet (very `hooty') 3. Poor tone quality, very uneven All trumpets (most notes not even recognizable as a trumpet) 4. E2 missing from tuba series; A#1 missing from 9' grand piano, right pedal depressed (volume 9) 5. celesta recording is very noisy (volume 9) **************************************************************** * Greg Sandell (sandell@ils.nwu.edu) * * Institute for the Learning Sciences, Northwestern University * ****************************************************************