Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!samsung!umich!sharkey!wyn386!danielw From: danielw@wyn386.mi.org (Daniel Wynalda) Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm Subject: Re: CP/M sofware for packet radio and TCP/IP Message-ID: <214@wyn386.mi.org> Date: 12 Apr 90 13:35:56 GMT References: <21863@bellcore.bellcore.com> <1804@aurora.AthabascaU.CA> <21974@bellcore.bellcore.com> <21614@eerie.acsu.Buffalo.EDU> Reply-To: danielw@wyn386.UUCP (Daniel Wynalda) Organization: Wynalda Litho Inc, Rockford MI Lines: 55 In article <21614@eerie.acsu.Buffalo.EDU> bowen@cs.Buffalo.EDU (Devon E Bowen) drivels: >In article <21974@bellcore.bellcore.com>, karn@ka9q.bellcore.com (Phil >Karn) writes: >> Fine. My code is freely available to any and all hams. > >Does this sound snotty to anyone else or is it just me? The original post >asked a very simple question. He just wanted to know if anyone had done any Frankly, I don't understand how someone would DARE CRITICIZE someone who puts as MUCH TIME and EFFORT into this hobby as does Phil. In plain and simple terms, Phil DID SAY "If you think it can be done - do it yourself. That is why he stated his code is available to ALL.". One of ham-radio's objectives is the promotion of the ADVANCEMENT of radio art. You would be hard pressed to find another who has put in as much time and effort as Phil toward this goal. >any degree. And instead of a polite "no, no one is working on that but you >are welcome to if you like" he gets this lecture on how his computer isn't >worth using and he should buy a PC. When he says he likes his computer he He said "It costs $60 for a PC motherboard." Frankly, people who write code like Phil's make ALOT more than that per hour. I realize some people don't, but at some point you CAN'T RETROFIT EVERY COMPUTER. Don't take this like I favor tossing old computers, just know the limits. My executable for ka9q is about 700K. There is NO WAY you are going to get that running on a 64K Z80 CPM machine. If there was, I'd be glad to run it on my old stuff. (By the way, I have a TRS-80 Model 4, 6 Televideo 800A's, and Televideo 816, and a bunch of other junk laying around if anyone wants to play with old equipment.). The 816 is a 16 port Z80 based MPM system with 40MB hard drive and 40MB tape drive. Interested????? I'll let it go CHEAP. >Anyone in this hobby that says something like this in this day and age does >not deserve the shit this guy is getting back for it. And he's getting it >from those people pushing the most for a no-code license to get more doers >into ham radio!!! [not meant to imply I am pro-code] Woe! I won't even bother. Frankly anyone who abuses Phil for being honest doesn't deserve his own words. > >This is no fun anymore. > Ahhhh.. Something we agree on. :-) -- Daniel Wynalda | Telephone: (616) 866-1561 X22 Ham: N8KUD Wynalda Litho Inc. | danielw@wyn386.mi.org I speak only for myself. Everyone 8221 Graphic Ind Pk. | should be responsible for their own actions. Rockford, MI 49341 | Bureaucracy - An organized form of anarchy.