Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!wuarchive!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!ames!xanth!mcnc!ecsgate!ecsvax!dukeac!wolves!ggw From: ggw@wolves.uucp (Gregory G. Woodbury) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: High Schools on the Internet Summary: An apology 2 Message-ID: <1990Apr13.032548.1567@wolves.uucp> Date: 13 Apr 90 03:25:48 GMT References: <9004110840.AA02224@awssn3.rus.uni-stuttgart.de.> Reply-To: ggw@wolves.UUCP (Gregory G. Woodbury) Organization: Wolves Den UNIX BBS Lines: 64 In article <9004110840.AA02224@awssn3.rus.uni-stuttgart.de.> zrfp0128@AWSSN3.RUS.UNI-STUTTGART.DE (Joerg Hertzer) writes: >In an E-Mail on this list > >Gregory G. Woodbury >wrote: > >>In article <9004060906.AA00677@awssn3.rus.uni-stuttgart.de.> >>(Joerg Hertzer) writes: >>>quoting someone else without attribution: >Two remarks: >1. I quoted an E-Mail of > Greg Earle > earle@poseur.JPL.NASA.GOV (direct) > earle@Sun.COM (indirect) > and wrote that in my E-Mail. Yes, my mention of without attribution referred to the way that the included text was marked. It was my fault for not properly preserving the attributions. The response is to Greg Earles posting, not yours. >2. English is a foreign language to me. I have newer seen the word 'Luddite' > before and cannot find it in my dictionaries. >Joerg Hertzer >Computer Center University Stuttgart >West Germany >zrfp0128@awssn3.rus.uni-stuttgart.de >Phone: >++ 49-0711-685-5803 The Luddites were an anti-technology terrorist movement in Great Brittan and the United States during the Industrial Revolution era. They were objecting to the increasing automation and job displacement that the introduction of steam powered engines and mechanical distribution systems and power looms and other machinery entailed. They sabotoged machinery, rioted, destroyed machinery and the homes of people they disagreed with in a reign of terror not too unlike some of the riots that the US suffered in the late 1960's. The distance of history lets many people feel complacent about the use of the term Luddite. To apply the term Luddite to oneself or to imply that anyone using this wonderful technology that we have access to could be a Luddite was a little more than I could accept with equanimity. A lot of high school students that I know are a lot more mature and sophisticated than a lot of the college students that I know. The stereotyping of ALL high school students with Mr. Earles broad brush is also an irresponsible act. In turn, I was irresponsible in posting the flame. To keep it from turning into an extended flame war, I directed the followups to /dev/null (a unixism for nowhere) and cross-posted to alt.flame to alert the readers that it was a flame. It was a waste of the net bandwidth and I apologize to you for mixing you up in it. I apologize to the rest of the group for their being subjected to further non-relevant discussion. In another article, someone (I think it was Sean Barrett) takes me to task for the redirect and not reading alt.flame. The redirect was intended to cut off more flameage, and I read alt.flame (when I can get it - my feed does not usually include it) but I figure that cross-posting to alt and comp is generally rude. (Mea culpa, I was rude, but not crude.) -- Gregory G. Woodbury @ The Wolves Den UNIX, Durham NC UUCP: ...dukcds!wolves!ggw ...mcnc!wolves!ggw [use the maps!] Domain: ggw@cds.duke.edu ggw%wolves@mcnc.mcnc.org [The line eater is a boojum snark! ]