Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!randvax!ism780c!wilbur!scott From: scott@wilbur.uucp (Scott Beckstead) Newsgroups: comp.software-eng Subject: Re: "software engineering" vs. "programming" Summary: Crafting vs. Engineering Keywords: Craftsman Message-ID: <1990Apr10.201117.9557@wilbur.uucp> Date: 10 Apr 90 20:11:17 GMT References: <4578@pegasus.ATT.COM> <12454@goofy.megatest.UUCP> Reply-To: scott@wilbur.UUCP (Scott Beckstead) Organization: Wilbur's Bike Shop, Westlake Village, Ca Lines: 24 Some how I alwys prefered the title Craftsman. However in the ever present upity world of business this is no longer considered professional enough. I think however that the title I have is the best all around cop out and that is Project Engineer. could be hardware or software either way it says engineer on my label. In my eyes I am a craftsman with a whole world full of tools and I use and discard them as the situation requires. The key is knowing what to throw away and when. I almost never argue engineering religion (ie language preference) with anyone. I have been sneered at for learning FORTH and PASCAL and even LISP but they have all gotten me a job and a good deal of respect with or with out a fancy title. If you are good at something do it and don't stop to try and tell the naked savages that the language the are using is obviously wrong or whatever they'll find it out and get the job done despite what you tell them. And yes I know punctuation is a tool I seem to have discarded. Thanks for listening Scott -- Scott Beckstead | Sew Crates was a grate greek. CIS 76106,3720 | Dang that one got right by the spelling checker FIDO 1:206/2814 | don't look at me YOU wrote it!