Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!samsung!munnari.oz.au!metro!bunyip!lance!surf!goose From: goose@surf.sics.bu.oz (Ralph Schwarten) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: MAC ][cx appraisal (long) Message-ID: <950@surf.sics.bu.oz> Date: 11 Apr 90 07:04:13 GMT References: <35685@dcatla.UUCP> Organization: School of Info. & Comp. Sci., Bond University, Australia Lines: 89 From article <35685@dcatla.UUCP>, by mclek@dcatla.UUCP (Larry E. Kollar): > [Bear with me, folks, this is kind of long. But I speak as one who uses both > a Mac and an Amiga regularly.] Yes, and so do I and I have used both for much longer... You see I have both machines at home. In use the Mac is faster, smoother, more consistent. Perhaps if Amiga Developers had stuck to a set of guidlines (are there a set of guidelines), nd used the intuition libs, the Amiga's Multitasking might have been usefull... currently it is not. For example on a mac i have a graphics package and a word proccesor open under multifinder... each of these programs are running in "Windows" on my desktop. I can move windows around resize them move information by way of cut and paste between each program... the interface is more than "pretty" or "professional" it is functional and effecient !! Same scenario, enter the Amiga, horrible interface.. disimilair between any two given pieces of software.. instead of a window, I have to pull down this stupid screen, just so that I can see the program underneath. I have about a 50/50 chance of being able to move information between them ARGHHHHHH ! Also multi-tasking goes hand in hand with "multiuser" Something neither the Mac not the Amiga can do. But in a single user multitasking enviroment, the multitasking aspect provides productivity. There is no such thing as Amiga and productivity, it's interface and slow operating speed (except fot animation of course) see to that. Fortunately I only use my amiga for games (That is all it is good for) and use the MAc for when i want to do serious work !! > > BARRETT%FOREST.ECIL.IASTATE.EDU@cunyvm.cuny.edu (Marc Barrett) writes: > [heavily paraphrased] > >>MAC multitasking isn't as bad as Amiga users make it out to be >>Amiga's graphics are kludgy, Mac's are professional >>Mac has better font support >>built-in networking on the Mac makes it the school choice >>more software available for Mac > I totally agree > The first and third points are mainly true; the others are either open > invitations to Yet Another "My Computer is Better" flame war or honest ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Aren't you saying the same thing > misconceptions by someone who hasn't used both machines for a couple of years. > In an effort to avoid the former, I'll assume the latter. > > I've used Macs for about 4 years now, mainly for word processing (I'm a > tech writer). I bought an Amiga 500 about 2 years ago, even though I use > a Mac every day and like it. > > > A Multitasking Comparison > > I use a IIcx at work with 5 Meg RAM & a fast 40Meg Sony hard drive. > Keeping in mind that the IIcx has a 68030 running at (16? 17?) Mhz, > it multitasks about as smoothly as my Amiga 500 with a stock 68000 > (7.16 Mhz). A plain Mac II, using a 68020, doesn't multitask as > well as my 500. Hahaha Don't make me vomit > MultiFinder starts showing its limitations while printing. Every > Mac/MultiFinder system I've used while printing in the background > turns the mouse pointer into a "guess where it's going to end up" > video game -- the pointer jerks all over the screen. I don't have > that problem with my Amiga. The first truth you have uttered ! No, the Amiga's pointer doesn't jerk all over the screen... it stops and the whole machine hangs until the printing is finished ( and that is all tasks buddy boy !) > [crap about add on packages so that the Amiga can "look" be as functional as the Mac deleted] > > How much video/animation software do you see for the Mac? Each > machine fills different niche markets -- the sharp displays and > graphics on the Mac have made it a nice office machine. The Amiga's > NTSC-compatible video makes it a nice studio machine. > True, the Amiga comes into it's own here so why argue on the other points ? Ralph Schwarten Bond University Gold Coast Australia