Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!uflorida!haven!h.cs.wvu.wvnet.edu!cerc.wvu.wvnet.edu!babcock.cerc.wvu.wvnet.edu From: bigbroth@babcock.cerc.wvu.wvnet.edu (James M. Coleman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: VMS Y & Z MODEM protocols Message-ID: <481@cerc.wvu.wvnet.edu.edu> Date: 14 Apr 90 19:24:06 GMT References: <10263@shlump.nac.dec.com> Sender: news@cerc.wvu.wvnet.edu Lines: 34 From article <10263@shlump.nac.dec.com>, by coburn@clo.enet.dec.com (John T. Coburn): > > In article <24071@usc.edu>, papa@pollux.usc.edu (Marco Papa) writes... > :In article <41676@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu> sl195091@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Andy Hartman) writes: > :>Here at IU, we tried to implement Zmodem, but the project was abandoned because > :>of the fact that the VAX (VMS 4.5 or close :-) ) deals in 7 bits while z modem > :>is an 8 bit protocol. If I am wrong, let me know (no flames!!!!) but I think > :>this is the reason it wouldn't work here. > : > :You're right: ZMODEM requires an 8-bit data path. > VMS is not limited to 7 bit serial data paths and has never been as far > back as I remember. The X.25 networks and X.29 PADs may be limited but this is > not a restriction imposed by VMS. I believe the problem in implementing ZMODEM on VMS deals with it's recoginizing certain 8 bit strings as control sequences and interrupting the transfer, not in VMS being unable to handle 8 bit data paths. This is why Kermit uses only printable characters for file transfers and does prefixing when transfering binary files. I would think one could find out what control sequences would be a problem to transfer and write an 8 bit protocol which transfers these control sequences in a different format. This would NOT be a portible protocol and is one reason Kermit, a very portible protocol, is still widely used. Jim Coleman /*********************************************************************** * * * Sometimes I think the surest sign that intellegent life exists * * elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us.* * Calvin and Hobbs * * * ***********************************************************************/