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From: roskill@cs.umass.edu
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Subject: Re: Did you check out MacConnection's latest ad?
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Date: 10 Apr 90 20:22:29 GMT
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In article <262210db:1709.3comp.sys.mac;1@tronsbox.UUCP>, tron1@tronsbox.UUCP (HIM) writes...
>What it means is that it is PROFITABLE. You know, money. The reason the
>magazine and company is in business.

Oh well...so much for the concern of the Mac community about life
in general.  Money and profit rule the day.  And I thought the Mac
world was different.


>No , it is not "someone else's problem". It is yours , and mine. I recycle
>all that paper they ask me two in my town, I collect my cans like a good boy
>too. 
> 
>What is annoying that that environmentalists , (like every other group with
>a good basic idea and a lunatic fringe) 

I would hardly call what a stated on the lunatic fringe.  I suspose
that means anyone who is concerned about our environment is on the
lunatic fringe.

>feel that they can infringe on a
>right just for thier cause.  If that magazine wants to print 1000 pages of
>advertising fine. Let em.

Huh?  You just contradicted yourself.  You say it is not "someone
else's problem", and that you are a responsible person, but that
a magazine should not be responsible.  I don't think I'm infriging
on the rights of the magazine to ask for a little concern about
this issue.  If MacConnection (a fine company, I'll state again)
wants to run an ad, fine, but there is no need for the overblown
"catalog" they ran in MacWorld.  It only serves to confuse people
(what's a review...what's an ad..).  I just thought MacWorld would
have a little more taste, a little more concern, and a LOT LESS
GREED.

>If you really want to help, make the process to recycle glossy magazine
>paper more econiomical then it won't matter.

I would if I could, but alas, chemistry was not my choice of profession.

> 
>By the way .. how much extra paper does that school you go to generate every
>year printing catalogues to high school students ? How many mass mailings ??
>I would suspect that more paper about that school winds up in the bottom of
>prospective student lockers every year ignored than that ad took.

Yes...that's true, but my school prints it's catalogs on newpaper quality
paper (very easy to recycle), and that is serving an Educational service.
UMass does not put out a catalog to make a huge amount of money (although,
I will be the first to admit, there is money involved).  They are not
taking out 40 pages in the New York Times Magazine to cover their courses.
So there is quite a difference.

Trying not to be a lunatic,

Damian

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