Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!husc6!popvax!kovar From: kovar@popvax.uucp (David C. Kovar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: 6.0.5 by ftp only (was Re: Thank you, Apple! (for again singling out 'the rest of us')) Message-ID: <2544@husc6.harvard.edu> Date: 12 Apr 90 12:32:26 GMT References: <1990Mar25.125336.8932@uwasa.fi> <2314@tellab5.tellabs.com> <1990Apr7.235132.15047@uokmax.uucp> <14964@cbnewsc.ATT.COM> Sender: news@husc6.harvard.edu Organization: Health Sciences Computing Facility, Harvard University Lines: 29 In article <14964@cbnewsc.ATT.COM> stuart@cbnewsc.ATT.COM (S. D. Ericson) writes: >I believe the issue was one of being able to track who gets the software. >They were finally able to convince the lawyers that ftp tracks (logs) the >connections and thus they would know who got the software. Sounds like they snowed their lawyers very well. FTP logs where the connection came from and who logged in. The login is almost always "anonymous" so there goes any chance of knowing who the actual person is. The address of the connection is an IP address (128.103.1.1 for example) which can be resolved into a name that should include the institution that the connection came from. Alas for Apple and their lawyers, I can easily make most any machine use most any IP address and pretend to be any machine I want. (There are some complications due to gateways, other machines, and the like but in general those are easily overcome.) So, in short, they have very little knowledge of who is picking up their software and no current method for limiting it to the people they want it to go to. If they lawyers believed that they know who is getting their software, they're deluded. -David C. Kovar Consultant ARPA: kovar@popvax.harvard.edu Eclectic Associates BITNET: corwin@harvarda.bitnet Ma Bell: 617-646-0428 MacNET: DKovar "It is easier to get forgiveness than permission." [All opinions expressed are my own. Noone else assumes responsibility for me.]