Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!husc6!kovar@popvax.harvard.edu From: kovar@popvax.harvard.edu (David C. Kovar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: 6.0.5 by ftp only (was Re: Thank you, Apple! (for again singling ou Message-ID: <2557@husc6.harvard.edu> Date: 13 Apr 90 10:12:00 GMT Sender: news@husc6.harvard.edu Lines: 53 Expires: References: Sender: Followup-To: Distribution: world Organization: Health Sciences Computing Facility, Harvard University Keywords: Nothing wakes you up in the morning like a good flame. *sigh* Yesyerday I posted an article explaining that if the Apple lawyers had been convinced that they could track the distribution of files via their FTP server then they had been mislead. This morning I received a mail message asking a) if I didn't appreciate the service and b) if I was trying to show how smart I was. I appreciate the service very much which is one reason WHY I posted my mail message. If the lawyers believe that can track the distribution and then they find out the hard way that they can't, they're very likely going to yank the whole thing and never consider it again. If they are informed ahead of time by responsible people within Apple, then a compromise might be worked out between the lawyers and Apple to allow the service to continue. There is also a secondary issue here that I consider important. Security on the net is pretty lax as we all know. Hackers flit in and out all the time. But a lot of people, myself included, are attempting to make the systems more secure while keeping them reasonably accessible. One of the best tools for doing so is INFORMATION. And, to be useful, it has to be CORRECT information. If someone believes that they have an audit trail when they really don't, they're going to be very annoyed when they find out after they need that audit trail. And you may not like lawyers but your company lawyers are really on your side most of the time. If they are accurately informated then they can help provide services in a more secure and friendly fashion. Lie, or mislead them and they're just going to tell you that you can't provide the service. I could go on, but I shan't. Hopefully you get the idea. I wasn't trying to show off I was trying to educate. I probably should have been more clear about that. I also get really ticked off when someone chews me out for correcting information that is dangerously misleading. If you want to keep other people in the dark just because you appreciate a service, then you're getting that service at a potential cost to someone else. Let's all try and educate, not hide, please. And do so in a friendly fashion. -David C. Kovar Consultant ARPA: kovar@popvax.harvard.edu Eclectic Associates BITNET: corwin@harvarda.bitnet Ma Bell: 617-646-0428 MacNET: DKovar "It is easier to get forgiveness than permission." [All opinions expressed are my own. Noone else assumes responsibility for me.]