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From: keith@Apple.COM (Keith Rollin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer
Subject: Re: Developers conference
Message-ID: <40128@apple.Apple.COM>
Date: 8 Apr 90 01:29:13 GMT
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Organization: Apple Computer Inc, Cupertino, CA
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In article <4a7WTh_00WB25gdV1X@andrew.cmu.edu> es2q+@andrew.cmu.edu (Erik Warren Selberg) writes:
>maybe Apple only wants what it terms "High-quality" developers, but if it's
>criteria is those able to pay gobs of money then they are, IMHO, completely
>brain dead.  High quality comes from innovation and good, clean programming.
>High MONEY comes from good business sense and a market for the program.
>Granted high money will come with high quality, but high quality doesn't
>necessarily mean high money (anyone know if Ray Lau will be there?  Something
>tells me no...).

Erik,

What you seem to be objecting to is not that we can't invite everyone
to the Developers Conference (or, by extension, allows access to
Developer Technical Support to everyone), but rather in the mechanism
used. Right now, we use the "those that got it, get more" rule, but a
lot of people here seem upset with that. OK. So what criteria do we
use? Would you rather that we base invitations to the Developer's
conference based on "need to know". Or how nice of a guy you are? Or
how long you've been programming on the Mac. Or on a lottery? Yeah,
some of these ideas are silly, but I'm serious when I say that I'm
interested in your ideas.

I'd also like to ask everyone else another question. How does Apple
Developer Programs compare with similar organizations in other
companies. What kind of Technical Support do IBM, MicroSoft, Digital,
HP, NeXT, Sun, Commodore, Atari, etc. give? Do they have phone lines?
Do they have an electronic service like AppleLink?  Do they have
support BB's on other services like CompuServe or MCI? Do they offer of
volunteer time on Usenet? Do they have their own developer's
conferences?  Do they have monthly mailings with technotes, sample
code, technical journals, and the like? Do they have hardware
discounts? Do they have tools like Phil & Dave's Excellent CD? What
else do they do? How well do they perform any or all of those
functions? Again, these are not rhetorical questions; I'm serious when
I ask this. Also, I'm looking for comparisons between us and a company
with a similar installed based of developers.

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