Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!mcsun!ukc!dcl-cs!aber-cs!pcg From: pcg@aber-cs.UUCP (Piercarlo Grandi) Newsgroups: comp.unix.i386 Subject: Re: X Windows and UNIX 386 compatibility Summary: SVR4 will save us -- until then, you don't have much luck. Message-ID: <1722@aber-cs.UUCP> Date: 11 Apr 90 22:20:54 GMT Reply-To: pcg@cs.aber.ac.uk (Piercarlo Grandi) Organization: Dept of CS, UCW Aberystwyth (Disclaimer: my statements are purely personal) Lines: 43 In article <263@samna.UUCP> jeff@samna.UUCP (Jeff Barber) writes: I agree that *if* Xlib is a shared library this is not a problem. However, the version of X I'm using now (X11R3 on Interactive's S5R3) does *not* use a shared library implementation (though perhaps I missed some installation instructions for this option hidden in a manual somewhere?). This is a fair statement of the problem now. So, the first question is: Does anyone know if there is a problem? That is, can someone (perhaps from Interactive, SCO, Dell, Everex, etc.) state whether the current UNIX 386 vendors use the same or different IPC mechanisms for the Xlib-X-server connection? No luck. This was discussed here following a similar query by Rick Richardson, which also would like to have shrink wrap X applications, and the answer is "under SVR3 it is impossible". This without workarounds. You can always delegate all the interactions with the X server to a small separate process, and you communicate with it in a standard way. You provide your customers with an X server interface module for each SVR3 style. Naturally this setup implies additional overheads, and is equivalent in favour to having several different shared libraries. Such a solution may actually be desirable for other reasons, if you can live with the overheads. The next question is: Will this be addressed for S5R4? Either by using a shared-library implementation of Xlib or by establishing a "standard" IPC mechanism for X-windows? Somebody from AT&T said "both". AT&T delivers a reference implementation of X11/Openlook with the SVR4 sources; probably most AT&T OEMs will use it; those that will not, and choose an IPC method different from AT&T's, will (hopefully!) use a shared library. -- Piercarlo "Peter" Grandi | ARPA: pcg%cs.aber.ac.uk@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk Dept of CS, UCW Aberystwyth | UUCP: ...!mcvax!ukc!aber-cs!pcg Penglais, Aberystwyth SY23 3BZ, UK | INET: pcg@cs.aber.ac.uk -- Piercarlo "Peter" Grandi | ARPA: pcg%cs.aber.ac.uk@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk Dept of CS, UCW Aberystwyth | UUCP: ...!mcvax!ukc!aber-cs!pcg Penglais, Aberystwyth SY23 3BZ, UK | INET: pcg@cs.aber.ac.uk