Path: utzoo!censor!geac!torsqnt!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!samsung!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!unix.cis.pitt.edu!dsinc!netnews.upenn.edu!vax1.cc.lehigh.edu!cert.sei.cmu.edu!krvw From: kelly@uts.amdahl.com (Kelly Goen) Newsgroups: comp.virus Subject: Re: Virus in Text Files Message-ID: <0012.9004091138.AA06134@ubu.cert.sei.cmu.edu> Date: 7 Apr 90 22:14:42 GMT Sender: Virus Discussion List Lines: 18 Approved: krvw@sei.cmu.edu Agreed no NON executable file can be used to infect however another technique without providing examples would be the case of a bat file being used to feed debug along with infectious code(SMALL) being kept beyond the EOF marker in the last allocated cluster... note all DOS routines(I/O) read the Entire cluster(not just up to EOF...) this can be quite a bit of spare space on present drives... more ambitious schemes would be a triply/redundant encrypted shadow file system using either Hamming or other ER schemes such as Reed Solomon...this could be used to store quite sophisticated system penetration/Interdiction/ICE-Breakers... with out visibility to normal virus scanners(most use the FAT and/or Directory Structures to analyze the disk...) this vunerability does in certain cases extend to other OS's besides **-DOS.... Something indeed to think about....still another reason to upgrade completely to MMU managed architectures(386/486 etc) using the VM8086 model ... cheers kelly