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From: mouse@LARRY.MCRCIM.MCGILL.EDU (der Mouse)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: Xview vs. Motif speculation
Message-ID: <9004080645.AA03267@Larry.McRCIM.McGill.EDU>
Date: 8 Apr 90 06:45:10 GMT
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>> the very fact that xview is free [...].  [...] telling everyone `X
>> must be better - look at all of these things that you can get for
>> free'.

> I don't know what you mean by 'free'...

Ftp to expo and fetch XView.  Now ftp to expo and fetch Motif.  What's
that?  You can't find Motif?  Run that by me again about how XView is
no more free than Motif?

> but very soon, some companies will make Motif the default environment
> when you purchase their computers.

I, for one, am not interested in paying for something I can't use.
Well, I guess that must mean they're not interested in selling to me.

> Hopefully, this will remove any illusions that other kits are 'free'
> and Motif is not....

Read my first paragraph of reply over again.  Where's the illusion?

Ask Dave Mack what happened when he tried to send out a bug report for
Motif.  Would that have happened with XView?  Hardly.

> and thus help minimize the Motif-vs-Xview diatribe and noise levels
> on this network.

A worthy end.  I don't care about Motif-vs-XView; I use (and will
continue to use) neither.  But I won't sit still for this sort of
doublespeak about "free".  Motif is definitely not free in the sense of
freedom, and for the sense of $, I'll just note that including the cost
in with the cost of the machine doesn't make it free; the "Open"
Software Foundation will still extract their $whatever.

					der Mouse

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