Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!torsqnt!lethe!yunexus!oz From: oz@yunexus.UUCP (Ozan Yigit) Newsgroups: comp.windows.x Subject: Re: twm questions Message-ID: <9733@yunexus.UUCP> Date: 6 Apr 90 18:43:28 GMT References: <2773@hudson.acc.virginia.edu> <9003302245.AA26720@kanga.lcs.mit.edu> <1432@nih-csl.UUCP> <1990Apr4.173406.11189@antel.uucp> Reply-To: oz@yunexus.UUCP (Ozan Yigit) Organization: York U. Communications Research & Development Lines: 36 In article <1990Apr4.173406.11189@antel.uucp> mike@antel.uucp (Michael Borza) writes: >In article <1432@nih-csl.UUCP> shaffer@net-sun1.nih.gov (Micheal Alan Shaffer) writes: >>from side to side a lot. For me the question is how can I modify a >>mac so that the scroll bars are on the left :-). > >Which is exactly why these things should be programmable, via xrdb or >otherwise. Just because you find xterm suits your purposes, why should >anyone else. Sure. Just figure out "what" to use for "programming" these things. You no doubt heard of "diminishing returns" ?? Well, with 30 (ok, maybe 15?) different crappy almost-programming-languages (with few notable real programming languages excepted) floating about to program anything and everything, it may be faster to hack C source than to have to learn 30 different syntaxes and semantics, one for your editor, one for your window-juggler, one for your virtual terminal, one for your directory browser, one for your toaster, ad nauseam... IMO, "Programmibility" and "Extensibility" as generally meant and used these days has reached a new level of absurdity. > ... Designing it [xterm] today as it is currently implemented would be > unthinkable. Perhaps not, but is the alternative to implement yet another shoddy "extension language" that does not look like anything you have ever seen before, or a poor/toy imitation of one you *have* seen before ?? oz --- [btw, for a radical view on this issue, see Rob Pike's "Window Systems Should Be Transparent" on Computing Systems Vol. 1 #3 (1988)] -- The king: If there's no meaning Interned: oz@nexus.yorku.ca in it, that saves a world of trouble ......!uunet!utai!yunexus!oz you know, as we needn't try to find any. Bitnet: oz@[yulibra|yuyetti] Lewis Carroll (Alice in Wonderland) Phonet: +1 416 736-5257x33976