Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!utgpu!lamoran From: lamoran@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (L.A. Moran) Newsgroups: sci.bio Subject: Human Genetics Message-ID: <1990Apr11.131415.18537@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca> Date: 11 Apr 90 13:14:15 GMT Organization: UTCS Public Access Lines: 83 Dan Briggs (dbriggs@nrao.edu) writes: "Here are some simples arguments why I think that *all* kids should look like a pretty even mix of traits from both parents... [statistical stuff deleted...] I'm not claiming that this model is correct, but just wanted to make the point that statistical factors will cause the distribution to peak sharply about the mean as total number of traits rises. Now observationally, this is bunk. I look like my mother, (allowing for the obvoius gender based differences :-). My sister looks like my father. I've no good way of quantifying this, but wouldn't be surprised to find that I'm in the 70%-30% ballpark myself. That is I am much farther from the mean value than my crude model can allow. So crew, your job is to tell me (or speculate) which one of the assumptions I made was the most stupid..." This one is easy. It is not your assumptions or your model which are incorrect but your observations! If you were to make a list of all observable human phenotypes it would include things like; height, weight, eye color, bone size, length of foot, blood type, skin pigmentation, shape of ears, size of breasts, facial hair, external genitalia, length of fingers, amount of body hair, shape of cheekbones, position and number of teeth, knee shape, flexibility of joints, hair texture, MHC antigens, enzyme isotypes, shape of hips, muscle bulk, baldness, type of ear wax, etc. etc. Imagine that your entire family was lined up, naked, on a stage. Any truely objective observer would undoubtedly conclude that you more closely resemble your father in most physical characteristics. Your sister presumably looks more like your mother since they both have two X chromosomes. If you concentrate on those physical characteristics that are not sex-linked it is very likely that neither you nor your sister will show a marked preference for either parent provide that all phenotypes are given equal weight. Now, why is it that you think that you have inherited more traits from your mother than from your father? The answer is that we tend to rely on a small number of visible facial clues to distinguish individuals. For Caucasians the most important are skin color, eye color, hair color, and the overall shape of the face. Other ethnic groups rely on different criteria to recognize individuals. Thus, you still claim that you look more like your mother, in spite of the fact that your physique is probably more like your father's, and your voice is unlike your mother's, and you have hair on your face! Consider eye color among European Caucasians as an example. If one parent has blue eyes and the other parent has brown eyes (but is heterozygous), then half of their children will have blue eyes and half will have brown eyes. We are inclined to pretend that the blue-eyed child looks much more like the blue-eyed parent in spite of the fact that they may not resemble each other in any other physical characteristics. In this case all of the children will "seem" to resemble one of the parents and not the other. The same bias holds for other prominent facial characteristics. When you claim that you "look more like your mother" you are probably focusing on only a few features of your anatomy and ignoring many that seem less important or are normally hidden by clothes. (By the way, do you know your blood type and that of your parents?) You correctly suggested this possibility when you wrote: "Here are a few possible ideas.. (3) The number of potentially observable traits is actually fairly small. Or more precisely, the number of such traits that people notice when comparing people is fairly small." For the record, human genetics is no different than the genetics of plants, fruit flies and nematodes. You really are a combination of the genes of both your parents and this can be proven easily in the laboratory. If there was an anomaly of the sort you suggest (ie. are 70% mother!) then it would have been noticed long ago. -Larry Moran