Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!nic.MR.NET!ns!logajan From: logajan@ns.network.com (John Logajan) Newsgroups: sci.electronics Subject: Re: A 74F74? Message-ID: <1990Apr10.225733.27152@ns.network.com> Date: 10 Apr 90 22:57:33 GMT References: <9561@sdcc6.ucsd.edu> <37746@mips.mips.COM> <1990Apr8.000826.16803@utzoo.uucp> <1990Apr8.061809.6501@ns.network.com> <29798@amdcad.AMD.COM> Sender: news@ns.network.com Organization: Network Systems Corporation, Mpls., MN Lines: 33 phil@pepsi.AMD.COM (Phil Ngai) writes: >I haven't used 74FC but I have used 74AC parts and in my experience, >the 74AC parts are much worse than any other TTL compatible parts, >including the F series, in requiring line termination. > >Are FC parts better? What is the difference between FC and AC? The FC parts are different from the AC parts in that there is no such thing as FC parts :-) SORRY, I meant to say AC and ACT parts are the designations for F.A.C.T. (Fairchild Advanced CMOS Technology.) ACT parts have TTL compatible input circuits, whereas AC parts need CMOS levels. Both ACT and AC outputs swing the full CMOS range, which certainly would seem to imply a greater need for termination in high speed use. AC/ACT parts run with supply voltages from 2 to 6 volts, use 1/10th of the power of FAST or ALS, and 1/20th the power of LS (under 1 Mhz.) AC/ACT also has good noise immunity 1.25v/1.25v and can source or sink 24 ma. Maximun propagation delay FAST vs FACT (ACT. AC's are slightly slower.) 74F374 (8 bit F/F) vs 74ACT374 10ns 11.5ns 74F00 (nand) vs 74ACT00 6ns 9.5ns FACT parts sure look good on paper. -- - John Logajan @ Network Systems; 7600 Boone Ave; Brooklyn Park, MN 55428 - logajan@ns.network.com, john@logajan.mn.org, 612-424-4888, Fax 424-2853