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From: thad@cup.portal.com (Thad P Floryan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga
Subject: Re: AmigaOS 2.0 still clicks the floppies!
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Date: 8 May 90 08:00:16 GMT
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{Re: AmigaOS 2.0 still clicks the floppies!}

guineau@wjg.enet.dec.com in <11271@shlump.nac.dec.com> writes:

	"Subject says it all..."

Re: clicking floppy drives with AmigaOS 2.0

You're kidding, right?  If not, then what kind of crap floppy drives ARE
being used that have that problem?

And ......

gdunlap@csuchico.edu (Gregory L. Dunlap) in <1990May07.193940.857@csuchico.edu>
writes:

	I've heard that programs (such as NoClick) which stop the clicking of
	the drives (by stepping the heads in the negative direction from track
	0 instead of stepping them between tracks 0 and 1) may damage drives
	with which this trick doesn't work (such as the A1010). This may be
	why Commodore left the clicking in.

Wrong.  ALL my floppy drives are A1010 and they're nearly 5 years old now and
work just fine with NoKlickStart.  These drives probably "see" over a thousand
floppies a month, and NOT ONE PROBLEM since 1985; the systems would be unusable
without NoKlickStart (even with my bad hearing :-)

The question I have is: WHAT provision IS there for NoClick (sic) to be used
with AmigaOS 2.0?

The original NoKlickStart(s) patch the Kickstart disk of an A1000 system (as
for both the 1.2 and 1.3 versions of the OS.

I'll have to check my dealer's A3000 more carefully to see if I can hear any
such noise.  If it exists, then my next system may just be an HP-9000 instead
of an A3000.  Consider.  From the HP 1990 Catalog, the HP9000-340 is a
68030/68882 running HPUX, comes with 19" monitor, etc etc and is the same
price as a comparably-equipped A3000 (though WITHOUT the stereo sound, though
WITH the 1024x768 color graphics board with graphics hardware support and
scan converter for high-speed vectors, circles and polygons, 6 color planes
for 64 colors).   An additional hardware graphics card with hardware RADIOSITY
support adds only another $2K or so and is known as the 3D-TurboSRX card.

HP's prices (and the alleged new Sun machine's prices) are dangerously close
to that of the A3000.  I, for one, will NOT tolerate a system with clicking
disk drives (as much as I like the Amiga).

Thad Floryan [ thad@cup.portal.com (OR) ..!sun!portal!cup.portal.com!thad ]