Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!umich!samsung!xylogics!merk!alliant!linus!eachus From: eachus@linus.mitre.org (Robert I. Eachus) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: A different review of the A3000 Message-ID: Date: 9 May 90 15:10:48 GMT References: <135251@sun.Eng.Sun.COM> <135378@sun.Eng.Sun.COM> Sender: news@linus.UUCP Organization: The Mitre Corporation, Bedford, MA Lines: 51 In-reply-to: admiral@m-5.Sun.COM's message of 8 May 90 21:08:55 GMT In article <135378@sun.Eng.Sun.COM> admiral@m-5.Sun.COM (Michael Limprecht SUN Microsystems Mt. View Ca.) writes: Again, Sun-3 is old stuff. Nobody in the market compares older, no longer sold machines to new ones. As to the definition of a workstation. What a meant to say is that when you call your machine a workstation you invite comaparisons to others who also call their machines a workstation.... I wasn't aware that Sun had stopped selling Sun-3's, and I am certainly surprised to hear someone from Sun saying that Sun-3's are no longer considered workstations. Amazing how fast technology moves. :-) Seriously, by the definitions we use here, the Sun-3/50, or an original Mac II just make it across the line into workstations. A Sun-3/80 or an Amiga 2500/30 is a mid-range workstation. The 3000 makes it into the high-end (mostly because of the greater than 16M memory capacity*, and the Super Hi-Res video modes). I am sorry that you feel that Commodore is poaching in Sun's territory, but there are going to sell a LOT of machines into the workstation market, with or without Unix. Whether you call the machines workstations or not will not change that. If Sun can sell the SPARCstation against the A3000, go right ahead. If Sun thinks that the Sun-3 models can compete at the current prices, think again. Robert I. Eachus Amiga 3000 - The hardware makes it great, the software makes it awesome, and the price will make it ubiquitous. *p. s. no flames please about the availability of memory boards, I know that TODAY if you want to go beyond 18 Meg you would have to use 16 bit boards, but I am sure that 32-bit 16 Meg Zorro III boards will be available soon after the 3000 starts shipping. From what I hear of AmigaVision it is a typical memory hungry Amiga graphics program. I used to say that the Amiga reminded me of the plant in the two-pit room. When I first got a 1000, it wispered "memory...memory," when I got it more it said "Memory... Memory," now it is still asking for more, and my machine at work is deciding that that 5 MEG is not enough and shouting "MEMORY, MEMORY." -- Robert I. Eachus with STANDARD_DISCLAIMER; use STANDARD_DISCLAIMER; function MESSAGE (TEXT: in CLEVER_IDEAS) return BETTER_IDEAS is...