Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!uwm.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!apple!oliveb!amiga!jimm From: jimm@amiga.UUCP (Jim Mackraz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: AmigaOS 2.0 still clicks the floppies! Message-ID: <5707@amiga.UUCP> Date: 9 May 90 18:53:18 GMT References: <11271@shlump.nac.dec.com> <29725@cup.portal.com> Reply-To: jimm@superman.UUCP (Jim Mackraz) Organization: Commodore-Amiga Inc, Los Gatos CA Lines: 53 In article <29725@cup.portal.com> thad@cup.portal.com (Thad P Floryan) writes: ) I've heard that programs (such as NoClick) which stop the clicking of ) the drives (by stepping the heads in the negative direction from track ) 0 instead of stepping them between tracks 0 and 1) may damage drives ) with which this trick doesn't work (such as the A1010). This may be ) why Commodore left the clicking in. ) )Wrong. ALL my floppy drives are A1010 and they're nearly 5 years old now and )work just fine with NoKlickStart. These drives probably "see" over a thousand )floppies a month, and NOT ONE PROBLEM since 1985; the systems would be unusable )without NoKlickStart (even with my bad hearing :-) What do you mean, "Wrong"? Your dozen or so floppy drives are representative of *all* manufacturing sources used by Commodore in the last 5 years (even in A1010)? By the small-sample statistics it follows that ALL drives do not have such problems? )The question I have is: WHAT provision IS there for NoClick (sic) to be used )with AmigaOS 2.0? I hear there is provision to more simply write an external utility/hack, if your hardware supports it. Trackdisk or somebody checks a public bit. )I'll have to check my dealer's A3000 more carefully to see if I can hear any )such noise. If it exists, then my next system may just be an HP-9000 instead )of an A3000. Very interesting logic from someone well-known for giving hardware advice. "If on one machine I hear noise once, I'll be strongly inclined to change vendors, operating systems, and software markets." )Consider. From the HP 1990 Catalog, the HP9000-340 is a )68030/68882 running HPUX, comes with 19" monitor, etc etc [...] )HP's prices (and the alleged new Sun machine's prices) are dangerously close )to that of the A3000. You forgot software. Price out the word processor, spreadsheet, compiler, 3D modeler/renderer, or whatever you use; or do you just use the hardware? )I, for one, will NOT tolerate a system with clicking )disk drives (as much as I like the Amiga). Apparently not, but the logic, math, and balance of this posting is lame. You sound like Marc Barrett. Have a beer. jimm -- -------------------------------------------------- - opinions by me "This voice console is a *must*. I press Execute. `Hello, I know that you've been feeling tired. I bring you love and deeper understanding.' " -lyrics by Kate Bush