Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!usc!jarthur!nntp-server.caltech.edu!tybalt.caltech.edu!toddpw From: toddpw@tybalt.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2 Subject: Re: My next personal computer will be a PC Keywords: PC Message-ID: <1990May5.094813.16564@laguna.ccsf.caltech.edu> Date: 5 May 90 09:48:13 GMT References: <2968@sactoh0.UUCP> <1990May4.055855.23151@athena.mit.edu> <12658@wpi.wpi.edu> Sender: news@laguna.ccsf.caltech.edu Distribution: na Organization: California Institute of Technology Lines: 53 ggray@wpi.wpi.edu (Gary P Gray) writes: > I don't want a Mac, because I would rather have a the flexibility >of a command line interface and text based display over an all graphics one. >Also, I have some questions on how easy a Mac would be to program with its >user interface the way it is. The Amiga could be the machine I'm looking for, >the "high horsepower" Apple //. In many ways that is exactly what the Amiga is. The fact that Apple has allowed the Amiga to exist for so long (I maintain that Apple could easily nuke them in the marketplace IF they wanted to) is really sad because the Amiga appears to have finally gained the reliability image it needs to become a major market contender. >I guess what I am saying is that I really don't care about Apple // the >architecture as much as I care about Apple // the design philosophy. Keep the >computer simple. Support the user *and* the hacker (remember the good old >days, when Apple gave you all the documentation you would even need with the >hardware, including a schematic?) And most of all, deliver a good piece of >equipment at a reasonable price. I believe that Apple once embodied these >ideals, and hasn't yet totally lost them perhaps. This is yet another brilliant paragraph -- comp.sys.apple2 seems to have an amazingly high hit rate lately. My beef with the Amiga is that their design tradeoffs from 1985 are coming back to haunt them and I can devise a "Super GS" that should be able to solve most of those problems. When I first saw the Amiga I decided its design was too centralized (made sense then but not now) and that its special purpose hardware was often overkill or simply too complex compared to the usage it would get (excluding games of course). Using today's technology (VRAMs and custom gate arrays, mostly) it is possible to implement a much more distributed and truly parallel processing design -- unfortunately for the Amiga they have too much hardware compatibility to deal with. The GS is really just implemented inefficiently and a true redesign (ROM 03 doesn't count at all) would reveal just how simple the thing really is. Maintaining 95% hardware compatibility would be a joke, and providing adequate tools from the start (for once) would save developers from temptation. But until Apple sobers up and starts to make such a machine, you are probably better off buying an Amiga. Just make sure you check it out thoroughly first; I have found that the Amiga does not have the "charm" my //gs has, in spite of all the capability. I feel that a properly redesigned //gs would be able to give us the best of four worlds: easy as a Mac, cheap as a Clone, whiz-bang as an Amiga, cozy as an Apple //. The sad fact is that only Apple has the resources to construct such a machine, and they are very under the weather right now. It is a pity to lose another comrade, but not everyone can afford to wait. Todd Whitesel toddpw @ tybalt.caltech.edu