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From: stephen@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (Steve Whitney)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Educational discount.  (was AMIGA 3000 & ATARI TT)
Summary: Good idea.
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Date: 5 May 90 11:04:56 GMT
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>Hello from Singapore,
>
>Below is on of the messages I receive from Info_amiga List.
>
>Should I wait for the Atari TT or should I dump my Mega 4 and get Amiga 3000?
>The 25Mhz version must be fantastic.
>
>Don't get me wrong. I like Atari and I have been using the Atari since 1985.
>I still have the first 520ST as well as Mega 4. However, the following new is
>so tempting. I prefer to use my Mega4 with Turbo16 chip and Spectre GCR than
>the Mac Plus which given to me by the University. I am now waiting for the TT.
>But with only 16MHz? I am not so sure now whether I should keep on waiting.

If you're worried about that, give Jim Allen(of Turbo 16 fame) a call.  Of 
course he won't be able to commit to anyrthing until he actually _sees_ a
release version TT, but he has mentioned the ease with the TT can be accel-
erated on GEnie.

>
>I am not intend to start the flame war. My point is that
>
>Atari never bother to offer educational discount and now my students can buy
>a Mac SE with Hard disk for  lot less than getting Mega 2 + Monochrome Monitor
>and no hard disk. They also get free Hypercard with the Mac. Of course we all
>know that the Mega is far superior but I can no longer recommend them to by
>Atari with 10% discount when they can get 40% discount from Apple.

Yep... I believe that Atari would pick up _more_ than a few sales by 
	1) Making ST, Mega, TT _available_ at university computer shops in the
		first place.
	2) Offering a student dicsount on said machines
	3) Placing ads in campus rags like Apple, Zenith, IBM, and NeXT do.  
		(They sell a lot of Zeniths even though they're nothing _too_
		special).  I saw a young woman buying a NeXT because "daddy"
		was going to buy her a computer and the guy at the store was
		telling her what a great one the NeXT was.  I feel sorry for
		when she wants to do anything as simple as install a piece of
		new software not understanding Unix/Mach.)

It wouldn't be too tough to do, I imagine.  Even step 2 could be implemented
by itself just to nullify the competetion's power/price advantage.

>
>David Blezard             //
>d_blezard@unhh.bitnet   \X/
>z I-AMIGA RUTVM1  5/05/90
>' D_BLEZARD@UNHH      S. SUJARITTANONTA    5/04/90*A3000 Student Discount


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