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From: dbarnhar@oiscola.Columbia.NCR.COM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Finder Sounds & The Grouch
Message-ID: <164@oiscola.Columbia.NCR.COM>
Date: 7 May 90 15:22:49 GMT
References: <8282@life.ai.mit.edu> <1990May6.174411.2732@coral.bucknell.edu>
Reply-To: dbarnhar@oiscola.UUCP (David C. Barnhart II)
Organization: NCR/OISD Columbia
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In article <1990May6.174411.2732@coral.bucknell.edu> smith@coral.bucknell.edu (Greg Smith) writes:
>In article <8282@life.ai.mit.edu>, ericf@montreux (Eric Feigenson) writes:
>> OK, I have system 6.0.5 (which I don't care what anybody says, it
>> crashes a *lot* more than previous versions, like 6.0.3) and have
>> Finder Sounds (whatever the most recent version from sumex is) which
>> is pretty cool.  I also downloaded The Grouch (also the latest from
>> sumex).  Now, The Grouch works fine (and since I have Kermit on my
>> Mac, I'm rapidly getting the entire cast of Sesame Street here!), but
>> I get either the FinderSound sound or no sound (if I disable the trash
>> can sound in Finder Sounds).  Is there any way of getting The Grouch
>> to do its sound thing with Finder Sounds active?  I have copied one of
>> The Grouch's sounds into Finder Sounds for the trash emptying, so I
>> get *one* of the sounds *after* Oscar has done his thing.  A
>> compromise that works, but I'd like to get Oscar to do his singing
>> (both songs) in his own time.  If anyone has any insight into this,
>> please let me know!  The future of the free world depends on it!!!!
>> :-)
>
>The problem is that Finder Sounds still has a sound channel open when Oscar
>tries to sing his song.  Finder Sounds needs a chance to clean up its sound
>channel after playing the menubar sounds, and Finder Sounds won't get that
>chance until after the trash has been emptied.  The sounds you will need to
>turn off are the  "Select from menu" and probably the "Mouse down in menubar." 
>If you turn these sounds off, Oscar will sing (I just tried it). 
>
>Unfortunately, I don't know of any good way to make it work with those sounds
>turned on, due to the nature of the hooks Apple has provided.  The current
>version of Finder Sounds is 1.2.  Sumex is currently swamped, so they haven't
>posted 1.2, yet, but they have it.  You can get Finder Sounds 1.2 now from
>coral.bucknell.edu (134.82.1.1) via anonymous FTP.  Just 'cd mac' when you get
>there.  The file is called FINDERSOUNDS12_SIT.BIN (or FINDERSOUNDS12_SIT.HQX).
>

Well, I don't know about System 6.0.5, but with 6.0.4, you can use both the
"Select from menu" and "Mouse down in menubar" sounds and Oscar still sings
away just fine.  I'm using a IIcx, with zillions of INITs, including Finder
Sounds 1.2.  I do have the window title bar sounds off, since they are just
annoying to me.

Dave Barnhart
NCR Cooperative Computing Systems Division
3245 Platt Springs Rd.
West Columbia, SC  29169    email: uunet!ncrlnk!ncrcae!secola!oiscola!dbarnhar

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