Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!snorkelwacker!ai-lab!mikec From: mikec@wheaties.ai.mit.edu (Mike E. Ciholas) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware Subject: SID Board: UPDATE!!! Message-ID: <8223@rice-chex.ai.mit.edu> Date: 3 May 90 00:28:21 GMT Reply-To: mikec@rice-chex.ai.mit.edu (Mike E. Ciholas) Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory Lines: 64 (SID is a sound digitizer for any Mac. Download info-mac/sound/program/sid.hqx on sumex to see what its about). UPDATE: I've gotten about 70 responses. Getting close... If you want to make sure it goes, better respond and tell me so. DESIGN: How close is close enough? Due to the very limited availability of 1.558Mhz resonators, I have been searching exhaustively for a replacement circuit. Criteria are: cheap, avaiable parts, and close frequency. But how close is close enough? Here are the following choices: 1. 800KHz resonator with a divide by 2 followed by an 18 state conversion. - conversion frequency is 0.145% low - virtually no parts changes (just the resonator) - parts: $1.00 2. 1.000MHz crystal with a divide by 3 followed by a 15 state conversion. - conversion frequency is 0.145% low - more stable than resonator - minor parts changes - parts: $4.00 3. 6.144MHz crystal with a divide by 23 followed by a 12 state conversion. - conversion frequency is 0.028% high - two extra chips - longer assembly - parts: $6.00 4. 22.1184MHz crystal with a divide by 71 followed by a 14 state conversion. - conversion frequency is 0.012% low - two extra chips - longer assembly - more power - parts: $9.00 Some additional data: Resonators vary in tolerance from 0.05% to 0.5%. I don't know how stable they are. Somewhere I got the idea that the 1.558MHz resonator from muRata Erie was 0.5% tolerance, which means any of the above circuits are better. Even if it is 0.05%, 3 and 4 are better initial tolerance. The difference in frequency between 'C' and 'C#' (sharp) is about 5.5%. If I went with the first circuit, could you hear the 1/38th interval? I may be possible to "pull" the resonator frequency slightly. I'll see if I can find a way to do this without an adjustment (it is usually done with some sort of trimmer capacitor). My personnal favorite is #1. People who have already bought parts can still use it, the freq difference is minimal, and it is cheap. Mike Ciholas email: mikec@ai.mit.edu snail: 289 Highland Ave, #108/Somerville, MA 02144 phone: (617) 623-3563 air: N1909C, 1954 Cessna 170B