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From: Boeheim@slacvm.slac.stanford.edu (Chuck Boeheim)
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Subject: Re: SE==>SE/30 upgrade
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Date: 3 May 90 21:32:22 GMT
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In article <9555@chaph.usc.edu> blood@aludra.usc.edu (Brian Blood) writes:
> Ok so what happens to the other drive for us dual floppy SE owners who 
want to 
> upgrade to an SE/30??? I know I get one drive replaced with a FDHD but 
what @
> my other 800K drive? 

I just had this upgrade done yesterday, though on a one-floppy system so I 
can't directly answer your question.  However, the FDHD upgrade is 
separate from the SE/30 upgrade, and costs several hundred dollars more, 
so I didn't spring for it.  I got back an SE/30 with a little sticker 
beside the drive that says "800K".  Some places may offer the two upgrades 
as a package, so check carefully what you're getting for the price.

One real shock was about memory.  I had put 4 1M SIMMS in my SE before 
upgrading it.  I was told by the salesperson that the SE/30 logic board 
came with 4 256K SIMMS already on it, so that after the upgrade I would 
have a total of 5 megabytes after the upgrade.  (Because the SE/30 has 8 
SIMM slots instead of 4.)  I got it back, took it home, and found it only 
had 4 megabytes installed.

So this morning I called the store, and was told by the technician that 
Apple requires them to return the old SE board to them with 1 megabyte of 
memory installed for them to get credit for it.  So they had swapped the 
memory from the SE/30 board to the old SE board to fill it up.  After 
rather forcefully stating that they were legally responsible for their 
salesperson's promises, I got a call from the store manager who told me to 
just bring in the old 4 256K chips (which I still had, but couldn't use in 
the SE/30 because they were too slow) to exchange for the 4 new, fast 256K 
chips.  Sounds like it will be a happy ending, but I'll wait until I have 
the new chips in hand to say that for certain.

So be sure of what you're getting when you get this upgrade!  If you've 
upgraded to 4 1M SIMMS, take the old 4 256K SIMMS in with you to trade, or 
even pop out the 1M SIMMS before the upgrade and put the 256K SIMMS back 
in and then put the 1Ms back in after the upgrade.  If you plan it right, 
you'll get a free extra megabyte.

Chuck Boeheim                                  
(415) 926-4640