Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!mips!prls!pyramid!infmx!aland From: aland@infmx.UUCP (Dr. Scump) Newsgroups: comp.unix.i386 Subject: Re: ESDI caching disk controllers: Reprise Summary: other issues besides simple caching Keywords: ESDI cache Message-ID: <4180@infmx.UUCP> Date: 5 May 90 04:29:32 GMT References: <274@caslon.cs.arizona.edu> <873@sixhub.UUCP> <1424@ssbn.WLK.COM> <1736@serene.UUCP> Reply-To: aland@infmx.UUCP (alan denney) Distribution: na Organization: INFORMIX Professional Services ("Peace thru Normalization") Lines: 32 In article <1736@serene.UUCP> rfarris@serene.UU.NET (Rick Farris) writes: >In article <1424@ssbn.WLK.COM> bill@ssbn.WLK.COM (Bill Kennedy) writes: > >> With a 768K cache memory on one card I routinely get 32% cache hits >> and with 4Mb on the one in ssbn I get 48-52% cache hits. > >That brings up an interesting point. I think I remember learning >that without a cache-hit rate of 90% or better, you're generally >better off without a cache, due to the overhead involved in cache >misses. > >Yet Bill tells us that subjectively the machine seems faster. Is >this a special case? Is the 90% number only effective with the much >smaller differential in access speed between cache and core? Does >the larger spread between core and disk mean that a lower hit rate is >effective? ... That surprises me, but I'm no expert. Keep in mind, however, that some controllers do other things besides simple caching: readahead, sorted writeback, DMA, adjustable bus speeds, etc. The caching controllers I'm using (Consensys PowerStor) make the machines *scream*, even when simple cache hit percentages aren't that high. >Rick Farris RF Engineering POB M Del Mar, CA 92014 voice (619) 259-6793 -- Alan Denney @ Informix Software, Inc. "We're homeward bound aland@informix.com {pyramid|uunet}!infmx!aland ('tis a damn fine sound!) ----------------------------------------------- with a good ship, taut & free Disclaimer: These opinions are mine alone. We don't give a damn, If I am caught or killed, the secretary when we drink our rum will disavow any knowledge of my actions. with the girls of old Maui."