Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!clyde.concordia.ca!uunet!samsung!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!uupsi!sunic!kth.se!perand From: perand@admin.kth.se (Per Andersson) Newsgroups: comp.unix.i386 Subject: Re: bsd 4.4 for i386 - vaporware? Message-ID: <1990May9.123222.2228@kth.se> Date: 9 May 90 12:32:22 GMT References: <113700004@uicbert.eecs.uic.edu> <838@visenix.UUCP> <4292@plains.UUCP> <836@vela.acs.oakland.edu> <326@design.axis.fr> Reply-To: perand@admin.kth.se (Per Andersson) Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden Lines: 24 In article <326@design.axis.fr> john@design.axis.fr (John H) writes: >Huh????? What the fuck??? How does $100k get turned into $1200??? >Anyway, which university has 1000 386's with > 80Mb disk and the support >staff needed to put an unsupported operating system on each micro? > >(I know you Yanks are stupid and rich, but THAT STUPID? THAT RICH?) Well, first universities don't pay what commercial customers do to get an AT&T source license. Second this also covers Vaxes, Tahoes and probably some other architectures. Third unsupported can be an advantage, as enough staff probably are present to understand what needs fixing, if there is something. At least on a large university with computer education. Besides, 4.3BSD on a Vax11/750 is one of the most reliable platforms one can run. Sad that hardware support is so high. 386 machines can maybe replace the 11/750 for uses like mail exchange, especially since 4.4 might come with PP, the RFC822/UUCP/X.400/(you name it) mailer. Per -- --- Per Andersson Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden perand@admin.kth.se, @nada.kth.se