Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!psuvax1!rutgers!cc.imperial.ac.uk!g7ahn From: g7ahn@cc.imperial.ac.UK (The Necromancer) Newsgroups: alt.hackers Subject: Meaning of "hacker" Message-ID: <6766.9005282225@sund.cc.ic.ac.uk> Date: 28 May 90 22:20:10 GMT Sender: nobody@rutgers.rutgers.edu Organization: Imperial College Hackers Society, London, UK Lines: 66 Approved: nobody@rutgers.rutgers.edu There is a discussion going on in alt.security about what "hacker" means and what doesn't. An example message (one of the best) follows. Have fun! >From: michael@xanadu.com (Michael McClary) Newsgroups: alt.security,news.sysadmin Subject: Re: A survey about hacking Message-ID: <1990May28.121735.23840@xanadu.com> Date: 28 May 90 12:17:35 GMT Organization: Xanadu Operating Company, Palo Alto, CA Lines: 53 To the many comments likely to arise from the "survey about hacking" post, I will add mine: Regardless of what half-informed media hacks would have you believe... - A "(computer) hacker" is a gifted programmer, capable of substituting skill and persistence for quality software tools. Calling someone a "hacker" is a compliment. - A "(computer) cracker" is a person who defeats system security measures, for whatever reason. Some cracking is done for legitimate reasons, such as testing system security or honing programming skills. Much more is done to obtain unauthorized access. Therefore calling someone a "cracker" is usually not a compliment. - A "(computer) vandal" is a person who uses his computer access, however obtained, to damage other people's data, programs, or computer access. Calling someone a "vandal" is normally an insult. - A "(computer/software/data) pirate" is a person who obtains improper financial reward for someone else's data or programs, regardless of how he obtained them. Calling someone a "pirate" is normally an insult. The author(s) of nearly any operating system, compiler, or major system tool you can name is a "hacker". The author of a software virus is both a "hacker" and a "vandal". Someone who sells illegitimate copies of proprietary software is a "pirate". If he himself defeated a copy-protection system to do this, he is also a "hacker". A system-security-breaking KGB spy is a "cracker", probably a "hacker", and (if paid for his work) a "pirate" as well. Saying "hacker" when you mean "cracker", "vandal" or "pirate" is like saying "cowboy" when you mean "cattle rustler". Just as nearly all cattle rustlers are cowboys but few cowboys are cattle rustlers, nearly all crackers are hackers but few hackers are crackers. Here at Xanadu Operating Company we have odd job titles. Most of us have chosen our own, but one of us was >awarded< his. A more mundane corporation would probably have called him "System Architect", but here he is the "Hacker". This means the rest of us have voluntarily refrained from using the word "hacker" in our own job titles. I trust everyone who either already knew the meaning of "hacker" or knew the sort of people collected to work on this project will understand the singular honor we have bestowed. = = = = = = = = = = And before you ask: My title is "Systems Rationalizer" = = = = = = = = = =