Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!mailrus!iuvax!bionet!GENETICS.WASHINGTON.EDU!joe From: joe@GENETICS.WASHINGTON.EDU (Joe Felsenstein) Newsgroups: bionet.population-bio Subject: Phylogenetic correlations Message-ID: <9005301655.AA28781@evolution.genetics.washington.edu> Date: 30 May 90 16:55:11 GMT Sender: daemon@genbank.BIO.NET Lines: 25 In regard to Cheverud, Dow, and Leutenegger's method, I asked them when I was shown a preprint of their work to explain how it related to other methods such as my own contrasts method of 1985 (American Naturalist) but have never seen it adequately explained. One difficulty with their approach is that when two characters are evolving in a correlated fashion this should show up in BOTH the "phylogenetic" and "specific" components. I believe that their method assumes that only the latter is to be used to estimate the correlation. If so then it must lose some power. I think there may also be a degrees-of-freedom problem. If there are four species then my method forms three contrasts and estimates regressions, correlations, etc from those. Theirs seems to make the estimate from four specific components, which seems to me to be one too many. Alan's simulations seem to show reasonable behavior but I would be interested in seeing whether it really does have the postulated distribution. I would welcome being corrected on this. ----- Joe Felsenstein, Dept. of Genetics, Univ. of Washington, Seattle, WA 98195 Internet/ARPANet: joe@genetics.washington.edu (IP No. 128.208.128.1) BITNET/EARN: FELSENST@UWALOCKE UUCP: ... uw-beaver!uw-entropy!uw-evolution!joe