Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!aplcen!haven!decuac!decwrl!shelby!eos!ames!sun-barr!newstop!sun!khb From: khb@chiba.Eng.Sun.COM (Keith Bierman - SPD Advanced Languages) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Bloat costs Message-ID: Date: 31 May 90 07:02:54 GMT References: <2793@crash.cts.com> <265D2FE5.2513@tct.uucp> <640@sibyl.eleceng.ua.OZ> <2662CE6C.3E68@tct.uucp> <26798@eerie.acsu.Buffalo.EDU> Sender: news@sun.Eng.Sun.COM Organization: Sun MegaSystems Lines: 29 In-reply-to: pjg@acsu.Buffalo.EDU's message of 31 May 90 05:41:10 GMT In article <26798@eerie.acsu.Buffalo.EDU> pjg@acsu.Buffalo.EDU (Paul Graham) writes: ... while not wishing to encourage waste in any particular thing i don't really find it the least bit productive for various folks to keep harping about how things are soooo huge, all the programmers are sooo lazy and trillions of bytes are going to waste. in the grand scheme .... Amen. If we assume that Amdahl was even slightly right .... each "MIP" requires 1Mb main memory and 1Mb/sec of "disk" channel capacity. For the sake of argument, accept vendor's claims of MIP ratings at face value. The result is that many, if not most, of the nifty machines announced over the last several months should have 10+ Mb RAM. The ever growing need for RAM is, IMHO, directly related to CPU performance gains. Software bloat would appear to be a second order effect. -- Keith H. Bierman |*My thoughts are my own. !! kbierman@Eng.Sun.COM It's Not My Fault | MTS --Only my work belongs to Sun* khb@chiba.Eng.Sun.COM I Voted for Bill & | Advanced Languages/Floating Point Group (415 336 2648) Opus | "When the going gets Weird .. the Weird turn PRO"