Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!hplabs!hpcc01!hpcuhb!hpda!hpwala!hpavla!kitchin From: kitchin@hpavla.AVO.HP.COM (Bruce Kitchin) Newsgroups: comp.binaries.ibm.pc.d Subject: Re: removal of CR Message-ID: <8460001@hpavla.AVO.HP.COM> Date: 30 May 90 11:39:30 GMT References: <470@ra.MsState.Edu> Organization: Hewlett-Packard Avondale Division Lines: 10 >> Incidently, what are the actual characters which end standard MS-DOS text I'm assuming that you mean what is/are the actual character(s) that end lines in standard MSDOS text files. They are CR-LF which are two separate characters 0x0D and 0x0A or the ASCII CR and ASCII LF. Word processing programs sometimes do things differently. They wish to differentiate between soft end of lines andhard end of lines. A soft end of line may be moved by reformatting a paragraph when text is added or deleted from a paragraph, while a hard end of line is forced by the user so it may not be changed, perhaps an end of paragraph mark. So with word processing files you may see LF without CR or CR without LF. But with editors such as those used for programs, you always see CR-LF as a pair.