Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cs.utexas.edu!usc!venera.isi.edu!smoliar From: smoliar@vaxa.isi.edu (Stephen Smoliar) Newsgroups: comp.music Subject: Re: Semantics of Music? Message-ID: <13698@venera.isi.edu> Date: 31 May 90 00:12:23 GMT References: <2370@aipna.ed.ac.uk> <2394@aipna.ed.ac.uk> Sender: news@venera.isi.edu Reply-To: smoliar@vaxa.isi.edu (Stephen Smoliar) Organization: USC-Information Sciences Institute Lines: 39 In article <2394@aipna.ed.ac.uk> geraint@aipna.ed.ac.uk (Geraint Wiggins) writes: > >The point of my example of keys is that certain keys give certain very >lowlevel >sensations, which are perceived on some subliminal level. I'd be interested on >other netters views on this - I'm VERY surprised to hear you claim that these >associations are arbitrary. David Burge, for example, claims that these "tone >colours" run down to the individual note level, and are what give rise to >absolute pitch. Having followed part of his pitch training course, I'm >inclined >to agree. Aside from that, I have always been taught that the IS such a >widespread perception, and have used it (with, as far as I know, the desired >results) in my own compositions. > >So what do people think on this one? > Unless I'm mistaken, John Sloboda tried to deal with this issue in his book, THE MUSICAL MIND. He tried to account for any concrete psychological experiments which had been performed. About the only conclusion he could draw was that the jury was still out. Have any better experiments been designed since he wrote that book? ========================================================================= USPS: Stephen Smoliar USC Information Sciences Institute 4676 Admiralty Way Suite 1001 Marina del Rey, California 90292-6695 Internet: smoliar@vaxa.isi.edu "By long custom, social discourse in Cambridge is intended to impart and only rarely to obtain information. People talk; it is not expected that anyone will listen. A respectful show of attention is all that is required until the listener takes over in his or her turn. No one has ever been known to repeat what he or she has heard at a party or other social gathering." John Kenneth Galbraith A TENURED PROFESSOR