Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!ucsd!ames!eos!shelby!portia.stanford.edu!gaia From: gaia@portia.Stanford.EDU (fai to leung) Newsgroups: comp.music Subject: Re: Mira Balaban (was: Re: Workshop on Artificial inteligence and Music) Message-ID: <1990May31.020938.13816@portia.Stanford.EDU> Date: 31 May 90 02:09:38 GMT References: <16283@phoenix.Princeton.EDU> <10541@sdcc6.ucsd.edu> <843@artsnet.UUCP> Organization: AIR, Stanford Universit Lines: 24 In article <843@artsnet.UUCP> mgresham@artsnet.UUCP (Mark Gresham) writes: >I would say it is more likely that the existence of this community >entails the *assumption* of the existence of musical semantics. >(like a Flat-Earth Society assuming the that the earth is flat). >The myth, then, is more persuasive it seems, and any other >possibility hasn't been under close examination for very long; the >assumption of semantics has been around much longer than the >contrary notion. Regarding the existence of musical semantics (ie yes/no question), I will truely appreciate reasoning beyond claims from the perspectives of Round-Earth Society's satellites. On the other hand, I admit that the details of meaning assignments, or associations, are much more difficult and really a branch of study. (Katharine Ellis's translation of Nattiez in last year's Music Analysis seems to be a good summary.) >Then, by golly, we'll >have to do a double-take and look at language itself again, too. It >may not be what we thought it was. The marriage with language study might not be a bad idea. There have been fine computing ideas and models on parsing (Earley, Kay, Tomita, Blank); grammar (Woods, Pereira & Warren); or memory (Schank, Minsky, Sowa)... ie, good shoulders to stand on. No? Suggestions?