Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!wuarchive!udel!mmdf From: kyber!minixug!root@relay.eu.net Newsgroups: comp.os.minix Subject: Re: Re: MINIX 1.3 for the IBM/AT Message-ID: <20357@nigel.udel.EDU> Date: 26 May 90 10:12:41 GMT Sender: mmdf@udel.EDU Lines: 108 >From article <4728@plains.UUCP>, by overby@plains.UUCP (Glen Overby): > In article <19670@nigel.udel.EDU> V2057A%TEMPLEVM.BITNET@cornellc.cit.cornell.edu (Juan Jose Noyles) writes: >>"Before running MINIX for the first time, make a backup of all the floppy >> disks, to prevent disaster if one of them should be subsequently damaged..." > > if only everyone would read and heed directions like this! > >>How? DOS can't even read it...oh well, maybe its a 1.2Mb diskette. > > I believe you have just found a legitimate use for all those boolegging > programs, like CopyWrite, CopyIIPC and LockSmith! They do a nice job of > copying your Minix disks. I have seen many people copy the Minix disks with > DISKCOPY (and laugh at me telling them that it won't work reliably) so > apparently that works, too. But I still don't recommend it. > > If I recall correctly, the Minix User's Manual also told how to use "cp" to > copy the disks after booting Minix. On top of all these (copyrighted!) programs, I wrote a couple of programs that are meant to be used while installing and using MINIX. Amongst the utilities included are a disk copier, a disk formatter, a decent Fdisk which understands MINIX partitions, a VT103/220 terminal emulator written in machine code (to get it to run at 115Kbps), etc... Should I post this? It is part of the "famous" MUG_MINIX distribution... > >>Well, while I have everyone's attention, where do I get ELM for this thing? > > Same place you get it for Sun OS, 4.3BSD, and just about every other > vendor's sytem (except HP). FROM THE NET! > > Good luck porting it. It's one of those programs that assumes > > sizeof(char *) == sizeof(int) == 32 > > and won't fit nicely inside a pair of Intel-style 64K segments. And, there is W-MAIL. > >>What??? It doesn't have UUCP??? HUHHHHH??????? Are you sure? How in the hell >>am I supposed to communicate? How does everyone else do it?? Please, don't >>let this be true... > > Dunno... I can't find UUCP on my Version 6 PDP 11/23 "warm footstool", > either ;-) I posted UUCP for MINIX a week ago, which is the enhanced and debugged version of Peter Housel's UUPC port. It has transported __many__ mega's of mail, files and news since I installed it. I also posted the new version of my U-MAIL mailer, which could get you into the World Of Small Systems Making Noise! > > [stty sarcasm soapbox ] > > Please take a look at the label on the box you got your operating system out > of. It should say "MINIX", not "UNIX(tm)". The price tag on the box should > also indicate that it is not Unix (a non-academic Unix source license costs > something like $100K, and an academic license is in the $5K range. You [or > your girlfriend] paid considerably less than that. So let's not hear > anymore whining about how Minix is unstable, doesn't include every feature > of Unix, ad nauseaum. OK? We all know about the things Minix doesn't > impliment, like Large Model Intel programs and such. You got the source -- > fix it! > > Minix may not have everything that 4.3BSD does, but it doesn't require a CPU > with paged virtual memory, 4 MB RAM, and a "few" hundred megs of disks space. > > If you decide you don't like Minix, you have every right to dump your book > and disks on some unsuspecting sucker, and go buy the Real Thing. You then > might also want to switch your newsgroup selection from comp.os.minix to > comp.unix.i386. > > [stty -sarcasm] > > Before my modem died an untimely death, I used "term" and "rz/sz" (zmodem) > to shovel bits between home and school. Works pretty good, too! > > Oh, yeah, you can get a couple of different UUCP implimentations for Minix; > one was posted here within the past week, and another can be found on > several archive sites. > > All together now: "Unix is a trademark of AT&T Bell Laboratories > in the US and other countries". "Unix is a trademark of AT&T Bell Laboratories in the US and other countries" I also own Microport V/AT, and I use MINIX instead of it. My 16MHz AT has been in service as a public access MINIX system since december 21, 1988, and it runs like magic with 1.5.10C in protected mode. We all know what 1.3 can and can't do (Glen: brilliant words...). You can upgrade to 1.5.10 and have a good time on a fine OS ! It just takes some more work than bying a box of disks in the store! > -- > Glen Overby > uunet!plains!overby (UUCP) overby@plains (Bitnet) Fred van Kempen, MINIX User Group Holland. +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ | MINIX User Group Holland UUCP: hp4nl!kyber!waltje | | c/o Fred van Kempen, or: waltje@kyber.uucp | | Hoefbladhof 27 | | 2215 DV VOORHOUT | | The Netherlands "A good programmer knows his Sources" | +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+