Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!munnari.oz.au!uhccux!ames!haven!adm!cmcl2!shemesh!ittai From: ittai@shemesh.GBA.NYU.EDU (Ittai Hershman) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: trash message from usenet (BIFF) Message-ID: <3142@shemesh.GBA.NYU.EDU> Date: 2 Jun 90 00:17:53 GMT References: <9006011234.AA22023@monk.proteon.com> <9006011556.AA23309@sonny.proteon.com> Organization: NYU Stern School of Business Lines: 20 > The TCP-IP list has been quite consitently professional in its > conduct, as have most public Internet mailing lists. Everything > unprofessional I have seen recently was "gatewayed" in from netnews. Nonsense. Witness the recent debate on the IETF mailing list, which is not gatewayed to netnews, on the subject of tongue-in-cheek messages. The "problem" is very simply the price of success -- things were a lot more professional back in the old days before we let just anyone (tongue is definitely in cheek here) on the network. The real problem is that our e-mail/conferencing user-agent paradigms no longer fit the reality of the Internet. On a personal level, I use e-mail pretty much for one-to-one or one-to-small-ad-hoc-group communication, and use netnews for all mailing-list/conferencing type activities. This was a step in the right direction, but the user-agents are still far too primitive. There are some intriguing ideas being developed in the research community and I look forward to trying them out as implementations are made available. -Ittai