Path: utzoo!yunexus!ists!helios.physics.utoronto.ca!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!ucsd!ucbvax!VAX.FTP.COM!jbvb From: jbvb@VAX.FTP.COM (James Van Bokkelen) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc Subject: Re: Two TCP/IP stacks on one PC Message-ID: <9005311412.AA02654@vax.ftp.com> Date: 31 May 90 14:12:42 GMT Article-I.D.: vax.9005311412.AA02654 References: <9005310245.AA17156@alw.nih.gov> Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 23 It is puzzling to hear that 3+Open mail doen't use Netbios sessions, in light of the way that OS/2 and NDIS are structured. The theory of how OS/2 was supposed to network (as propounded by Microsoft and 3Com) was that all network activity was going to take place via "named pipes" (preferred) or Netbios sessions (via the user NCB API), and thus they didn't specify any means of programming the actual transport layer from a user application. LAN Manager talked to a Netbios embedded in the kernel, user NCBs were passed to this Netbios, and that was it. A vendor could presumably specify a private API for a particular transport layer, but Microsoft stayed out of it. If 3Com (and other LM OEMs) had implemented things this way, then it would be fairly simple to swap one transport layer for another (XNS vs. OSI vs. TCP/IP was what Microsoft promised) at the cost of difficulty in doing "standard" applications like FTAM or Telnet. But if in fact 3+Open mail goes direct to the transport, then 3Com is married to their own transport layer (presumably XNS or TCP/IP), and my 2nd alternative isn't viable for 3COM (a bit of a surprise). Oh, well... James B. VanBokkelen 26 Princess St., Wakefield, MA 01880 FTP Software Inc. voice: (617) 246-0900 fax: (617) 246-0901