Xref: utzoo comp.sys.ibm.pc:51758 comp.os.minix:11005 comp.unix.xenix:11860 comp.realtime:678 comp.arch:16253 Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!munnari.oz.au!uhccux!ames!think!sdd.hp.com!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!nic.MR.NET!nic.stolaf.edu!thor.acc.stolaf.edu!mike From: mike@thor.acc.stolaf.edu (Mike Haertel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc,comp.os.minix,comp.unix.xenix,comp.realtime,comp.arch Subject: Re: Bloat costs Message-ID: <548@nic.stolaf.edu> Date: 2 Jun 90 04:01:39 GMT References: <2662D045.3F02@tct.uucp> <442@van-bc.UUCP> <266577FA.6D99@tct.uucp> Sender: news@nic.stolaf.edu Reply-To: mike@thor.acc.stolaf.edu () Followup-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc Organization: St. Olaf College; Northfield, MN Lines: 18 In article <266577FA.6D99@tct.uucp> chip@tct.uucp (Chip Salzenberg) writes: >According to jtc@van-bc.UUCP (J.T. Conklin): >>On the other hand, there is something to be said about giving >>beginning programmers 6 MHz Xenix/286 machines to work on. > >Amen. Not a 286! If you want to teach someone about memory constraints give them a PDP-11 running UNIX v7. A much cleaner architecture. The problem is, people all too often assume that their past experience defines how things "should" be, and so when they in turn design things in the future they apply their preconceptions. We don't need any intellectual descendents of the 286. -- Mike Haertel ``There's nothing remarkable about it. All one has to do is hit the right keys at the right time and the instrument plays itself.'' -- J. S. Bach