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From: bard@jessica.stanford.edu (David Hopper)
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Subject: Re: Shell Menus.
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In article <20550@snow-white.udel.EDU> BARRETT@forest.ecil.iastate.edu (Marc Barrett) writes:
>
>   Is there some unwritten rule that says that CLI's and GUI's must be
>totally seperate?

>			[...]

>   I like both the Shell and WorkBench, but am somewhat unhappy with
>both.  I wish there could be a merger of the Shell and WorkBench.  OS2.0

Marc, part of the reason I like the Amy is that it provides a fully 
configurable vanilla console that allows high-level access to the DOS.  I
would not want C= to beef up the CLI on their own and add what *they* feel I
need to the console.  It's all in the philosophy, IMHO-- what you would
like is a more mouse-oriented command-line interface.  You can find this for
the Mac, to be sure-- but the Amy is no Mac (thank God).  The philosophies 
(forgive the term) *are* different and *should* be.  I want to have full 
control of my interface; as it is, I have SKsh and ConsoleBuffer on my CLI.
If C= made the CLI any more complex, I would doubt I could configure it the
way I wanted to.

>OS2.0 provides text clipping betweens Shells and programs, but this is
>not really enough.  I would also like to see an 'edit' menu added to
>the Shell.  This menu could provide items such as select-all, copy,
>cut, and paste to make text clipping more flexable.

In fact, I've had the ability to cut and paste for a while now with Snap.
It's all in the freely-distributable/shareware software, Marc.  You won't 
find the support anywhere else as you would for the Amy.

>                                   -MB-
>
>BTW, the DOS Shells on the SUN SparcStation have menus.  Why can't
>the Shells on the Amiga have this feature?

Because the Amiga is not a Sun.  Neither is it a Mac or an IBM.  Sorry to give
ya the painfully obvious, Marc, but you keep forgetting this one simple fact.
One world, one computer is a pretty shitty attitude, IMHO.

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