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From: cseaman@sequent.UUCP (Chris "I'm Outta Here, Man!" Seaman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga
Subject: Re: Microsoft products
Message-ID: <35996@sequent.UUCP>
Date: 31 May 90 23:24:17 GMT
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gpsteffler@tiger.uwaterloo.ca (Glenn Steffler) writes:
< monty@sagpd1.UUCP (Monty Saine) writes:
< >gpsteffler@tiger.uwaterloo.ca (Glenn Steffler) writes:
< >>They have already set up a very neat system where code is shared across 
< >>architectures (MAC,OS/2,DOS) that allows for releases on the major platforms
< >
< >architectures" why do you think the Amiga would be a "very difficult
< >platform to provide for" sounds like a typical microsu**k thinking to me.
< 
< Listen dweeb, I plainly stated that they already have IN EXISTENCE a platform
< independant system which was obviously designed with considerations from
< all three operating systems.  Obviously a radically different system like
< the Amiga (and it's lack of many of Windows,OS/2's SDK niceties) would
< present a difficulty.

If their development 'system' is platform independent, then the 'niceties'
of SDK would have no bearing on it.  The fact is that their development
environment is *very* specific to three (and ONLY three) platforms, namely
MS-DOS, OS/2, and the Mac.  If they were truly platform independent, the
core logic for their applications would not care what the machine or OS
were.

< >I for one am VERY glad that they do not support the Amiga. It give the 
< >Amiga a better sense of reality.
< >
< >Monty Saine
< 
< Please!  And I suppose there is software like Excel, and WordForWindows
< on the Amiga?  How about Works, it sells in a bundle with more PC's
< per month than Commodore sells Amigas in a year.

Excel is very nice (assuming you have the minimum 2MB expanded memory
required to run it).  Word for Windows is also very nice.  It has a ton
of features.  Unfortunately, those features get in the way of complex
things such as editing a 2 page document that has more than one font.
Then you start getting messages about being unable to display the selected
font, and being unable to load the spell checker or thesaurus or *help*.  Yup,
a couple of real winners there.

Understand that I'm not saying that MS-DOS is necessarily trash.  I own
an MS-DOS based PC, and find it quite useful.  However, if I had to part
with one of my machines, I would lose the PC long before my Amiga.  As
I've told my wife, the only way anyone will get my Amiga is by prying
it out of my cold, dead fingers :-).

< Given the choice of driving a Jaguar with mouldy seat covers, or a 
< brand new Ford Tempo ... you would probably walk.

No, I'd strip out the moldy seat covers, put in nice leather seats, and
blow the doors of the Escort. But then again, my version of the analogy
likens the Amiga to the Jag (with leather seats, of course) :-).

< Besides, Microsoft has adopted a zero bugs policy.  (a change for the better
< I must say)

Oh really?  Do they plan to recall *EVERY* product they have on the market?
They would have to, in order to abide by that policy (and that includes DOS).
It will be years before they ever get anything even close to 'zero bugs',
which we all know is impossible (from a practical standpoint).

< ----
< Co-Op Scum

I really don't want to start another pointless flame war here.  Really, I
don't.  I think there is definitely room in the world for Mac's, IBM's,
and Amiga's.  I just get very tired of people trying (and failing) to sound
high and mighty by telling us what a failure the Amiga is since it doesn't
have Excel or Microsoft Word.  There are more important things than
word processing and spreadsheets.  Besides, from what I've read about
ProWrite 3.0, it may just give Word a serious run for the money.

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